Posted on 03/22/2022 2:16:26 PM PDT by george76
“They were talking about the massive corruption of Ukraine, and how horrible it was over there. And now, all of a sudden, they’re looking at it like they’re heroes.”..
Joe Rogan noted on his podcast that the Western narrative on Ukraine has flipped 180 degrees in a few weeks from the country having a horrible corrupt government to being heroic allies against the Russian scourge.
“I have this screenshot that someone sent me,” Rogan stated, “about the way the people on the left were talking about the Ukraine situation before the war.”
He continued, “This is one of the things that’s so weird is that they were very disparaging of Ukraine, and they were talking about the massive corruption of Ukraine, and how horrible it was over there.”
“And now, all of a sudden, they’re looking at it like they’re heroes. The same exact people. This is what’s confusing,” the host added.
Rogan then read out points from the screenshot he referenced wherein Ukraine was labeled “the most corrupt nation in Europe” with an “increasingly corrupt and authoritarian” leader who is seeking to deepen an “alliance with the far right”.
“We’re supposed to just veer away from the narrative that was being pushed just a couple years ago,” Rogan asserted.
Rogan also went on to point out how insane it is that Facebook and other social media platforms are officially sanctioning violent rhetoric against Russians, exclaiming “What the f*ck is that? What is that?”
If you’ve been on the receiving end of DeepState propaganda, it is obvious that DeepState has decided to back Kiev at least for now. You can imagine what the propaganda would look like if they had decided otherwise.
That said, if you are Ukrainian, your immediate problem is to avoid being forcibly absorbed by Russia. Dealing with your own corrupt knuckleheads is a problem for another day. That’s one of those problems that will always be with you.
You captured the situation very well. The danger is that Putin may feel he has to do something drastic thinking he can save his own skin. Like I said earlier . . . very uneasy.
That’s a complete distortion of what Rogan said. He said Biden is such an incompetent dementia patient, that he was thankful there’s a deep state controlling him instead of Biden making his own demented decisions.
I don’t necessarily agree with his sentiments, but it was a put down of Biden and not a praise of the deep state.
Historically, it is the perfect storm for a pre emptive attack. An attack that would be nuclear or an attack that could only be countered by a retaliatory nuclear response.
Perhaps we sympathize more with the people of Ukraine than with the Russian invaders, because they are heroically defending their country and perhaps not the government itself.
There are victims on both sides. Over 7 million ethnic Russians live in Ukraine, mainly in the DPR and other Russian controlled areas, although some live in central and western Ukraine. They are being killed and injured daily by the missiles and other artillery being lobbed into the Donbas by the Ukrainian army. Why does nobody seem to GAF about those civilians?
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky thanks Zuckerberg for helping him .. to allow praise for the Azov Battalion..
Facebook said they would permit ‘calls for violence against Russians’..
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4046601/posts
Whenever Soros, Klaus Schwab , Bush, Hillary, Kerry, Pelosi, Romney, Biden, the drive by media, and … all line up on one side, pay attention..
That said, fighting against invaders would be the first issue
Absolutely correct.
I’ve been watching Patrick Lancaster’s videos on YT. He’s a crowd funded independent American journalist who has been living in Donetsk and reporting on the ongoing violence there for at least 8 years. I’ve learned a lot about the complicated situation in Ukraine from his videos. It’s important to see both sides in order to get to the truth, which is usually in the middle.
BiXiden leftists are against corruption?
Who knew?
And the Ukrainians are shelling back, killing innocent Russian Ukrainians living in DPR, Donbas, etc. Why no pity for those ppl? They didn’t ask for war either.
They may well have been corrupt AND deserve support fighting a foreign invasion by Russia under Putin.
No sane person believes NATO is interested in invading Russia.
The media portrays Zelenskyy as an innocent, erstwhile comedian trying valiantly to lead his country into an uphill battle against Goliath. In reality, however, the Pandora Papers revealed that he is a corrupt millionaire with multiple offshore accounts who is also in bed with Kolomoisky, a corrupt oligarch who bankrolled his campaign. 😲
They didn’t get him with the N-word montage.
Giving so many, especially those with those flags on their profiles, an alternative view could be next
Amen.
“You captured the situation very well. The danger is that Putin may feel he has to do something drastic thinking he can save his own skin. Like I said earlier . . . very uneasy.”
Good thought. The only problem is Putin’s skin seems to be doing just fine especially when half the world’s population did not vote against him in the U.N (China, India, and almost all of the middle east oil countries and a boatload of African countries). His Ruskie citizens love a leader that will stand up for their country.
Let me tell you about somebody’s skin that really needs saving. Hint: he is old and senile.
Bye, bye to the clown in Ukraine. Come on over here to your house in Miami. You’ll fit in real well.
BiXiden leads a pretty corrupt nation.....
“They were talking about the massive corruption of Ukraine, and how horrible it was over there. And now, all of a sudden, they’re looking at it like they’re heroes.”
Maybe because If Mexico got invaded by China, their drug cartels and other problems wouldn’t be the number 1 issue anymore ? Is that guy retarded ?
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