Posted on 03/16/2022 8:06:01 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
Watch the video (at link), the host gets more disturbed with each comment coming from colonel.
MacGregor reminds me of officers I served under while in the USMC. They are mission-driven and could care less about opinions outside the theater of war.
Long before this Russia/Ukraine conflict started he predicted the onset of it. His prediction came at the beginning of this year.
He argues that the United States teaming up with NATO to push Putin into a corner and that’s one of the major things that has started this conflict.
Back in January of 2022, The Gray Zone reported that Col. Doug MacGregor, an ex-Pentagon advisor, on how the US war lobby fuels conflict from Ukraine to Syria. Washington, DC, he says, is “occupied territory. It’s occupied by corporations, by lobbies.”
“The Military Industrial Congressional Complex,” Macgregor says, “seems to be more powerful than anyone who occupies the office of the presidency.”
Here is what he predicted would take place:
First of all, the problems in Ukraine are not new. We’ve been dealing with them for the last, I would argue, 10 to 15 years. These problems were evident in the 1990s when the former Soviet Union fragmented into various states. The current borders of Ukraine never made a great deal of sense because Ukraine is essentially a multi-national state.
You have in the east, that is beyond the Dnieper River, to the south down to Odessa on the coast, what is really a Russian population. The rest of Ukraine is actually historic Ukraine. It goes back to the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, and that part of Ukraine is inhabited by true Ukrainians in terms of ethnicity as well as culture and language. Putting this together has always been problematic, particularly because Ukrainians have wanted to turn the Russians into Ukrainians.
The Russians aren’t terribly excited about that prospect and have complained bitterly about it. And Putin, from the very beginning of his presidency, tried to make it clear to anyone who would listen that there were certain things that he would not tolerate as the Russian head of state, and one of those was that Ukraine become a member of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
He also had concerns about the EU because that was seen as another mechanism with which to integrate Ukraine into the West.
Then finally he became very concerned about the plight of the Russians. Crimea has historically never [been] part of Ukraine and has been part of Russia since 1776, and so he was anxious to relieve that burden on the Russians in Crimea by driving the Ukrainians out, and he did that in 2014. But he also wanted to ensure that we understood that we were never going to be able to use Crimea—the Crimean Peninsula—and the ports on the Crimean Peninsula for NATO naval forces or any other forces.
We didn’t pay any attention. We attacked him viciously. We essentially ignored any of his expression of concern or interest in Ukraine from the standpoint of Moscow’s national security. And we have always refused to acknowledge the Russian concern that NATO is threatening to Russia. We’ve insisted, ‘Absolutely not.’ But we don’t have far to look over the last 20 years at the various regime change operations that Washington has staged to appreciate Putin’s concerns. But instead of addressing those concerns in a substantive way, considering what Russia’s interests are, we’ve essentially said that they’re illegitimate, and the only interests that are legitimate are our own and those of our quote-unquote NATO allies.
So, here we sit. We’re looking at a force of 130, 150, 180 thousand, I don’t know what it will be when the day approaches, but a force that is substantial enough to seize the Russian-speaking areas that are east of the Dnieper River and, frankly, all the way out to Odessa if he decides to do it. There’s not a great deal we can do about it.
I live in Kyiv. Gimme a break! We are happy that the West is helping us fight Russia. But we are unhappy that the West (viz, neocons) got us into it in the first place. We wouldn't need NATO help now if the west had not shoved NATO down Putin's throat.
We are happy that we have freedom of speech. More than in the US - political correctness will get you fired - or Canada, where they will rob and jail you.
We are happy that men are men and women are women. We know which bathrooms to use and we don't need instruction from Biden and Rachel Levine,.
Ukraine is a place and a people. It is not part of the decadent west. What we desperately need is to be left alone.
Tomas Pueyo, lockdown thinkfluencer, issues edict on the Ukraine
Curious to know why you told me 9 times.
While one should never forget history, one should learn from it, there are areas of Ukraine that are almost all Russian. There are things about this war that we don’t know about.
If you want to talk history: Russia invaded Crimea during the Soetero administration. The same admin that stated it would have more flexibility in its second term.
Ukraine played a major role in the Clinton/Dem Russian Collusion hoax.
Russia invaded Ukraine again during CornPops admin.
Yes, 90yr old history is important. But what Stalin did shouldn’t be dictating policy for what is happening in 2022.
IMHO, if you want to go that route, should what Hitler did he dictating how we treat Germany?
Wall St and other US corporations are knee deep in Russian business, etc.
The US has Russian billionaires that own American sports teams and venues Should what Stalin did dictate how they’re treated?
Not zero. Can’t calculate it, But, there are reports that Russia is very close to having its supplies ammunition and everything run out. It is still very much up in the air. The Russian are swimming against the tide of history and that does account for something.
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He’s right. Also Zelensky is a tool of Soros and Schwab and the globalists.
He’s also a tyrant. He’s shut down opposition newspapers and jailed his political opponents.
I don't understand why Ukraine is getting special blame here. Look at it from their perspective: highly placed US officials have their hands out? It's a no-brainer: you pay.
I'm not swayed by propaganda: I have relatives in Poland and have read a lot about its history and eastern Europe. This is just Russia returning to its old habits, and repeated US and European warnings have proven to be just hot air, so in the end, why wouldn't Putin go after a NATO member?
You think escalation is too risky. I think escalation is inevitable, and a controlled escalation where we take the initiative to nibble at the bear to show we're serious is better than uncontrolled or even accidental escalation down the line.
If nothing else the neocons on the FR are out in the open.
Let’s see if we can answer your question.
Do you think the globalist plan is working?
So the globalist plan for lockdowns were supposed to continue until 2025?
Everyone was supposed to be vaccinated?
The cabal headquarters in Ukraine, their source of money laundering and trafficking, wasn’t supposed to be destroyed?
How do you think the globalists feel now about the bioweapons labs in Ukraine?
No, you are wrong. Russia drew a line many years ago and stated clearly that Ukraine would not be allowed to join NATO. Unlike Obama the Russians do not draw lines and then retreat from them. But what has western leadership continued to do year after year? Destabilizing the situation in Ukraine with massive amounts of propaganda and misinformation resulting in a regime that George Soros himself stated that he had more control over than any other nation in the world.
This has ZERO to do with the freedom of the people in the Ukraine. Their leadership has been fleecing them blind and using much of the profit to pay off the same western politicians that put them in power. You trying to equivocate saying that everyone is corrupt has a grain of truth, but it is like saying someone who drives 5 over on the freeway is the same as cartels smuggling dangerous drugs and people into the heartland. It is silly.
There are no real good guys here. But destroying the world economy and starting WWIII over this predictable situation is insane!
Won’t hear much from this Colonel anymore.
Unfortunately, not. This guy is a total nutball and was Trump’s pick to be ambassador to Germany. So he’ll be trotted out often by Fake News to smear all of MAGA as crazy.
EVery where you look the uniparty stooges are out in full force calling for WWIII.
Steve Turley released a video this morning that lasts 10 minutes and is very informative.
ZELENSKYY CALLS FOR WORLD WAR III!!!
NATO never agreed to limit its possible expansion.
As events have shown, it is Russia who is the aggressor.
With America’s help—Ukraine can not lose. Lets make them a client state or better yet—the 51st State of the Union!
You win the prize! NATO was formed as a unified force opposing the Soviet Union. NATO has continued to expand its territory and member countries with no promises that they would ever stop. NATO has a bunch of approximately 6300 nuclear missiles most of them aimed directly at every major urban area in Russia. Russia has maintained approximately the same number of Nuclear missiles aimed back at NATO countries but mostly at the USA. At the same time Russia has been reducing its military year after year. Thus relying more and more heavily on their nuclear arsenal for defense.
So for the big prize... is it really a good idea for the USA to provoke a country that has had a long standing line drawn in the sand with our uniparty leaders lined up behind a demented old fool all acting like they are filled with bravado and ready to push this to the brink? This is not our fight. Like it or not Ukraine has been part of Russia for hundreds of years and now is not the time to keep pushing them into a corner. It is absolute insanity and it is difficult to believe that we are even having this discussion.
This notion of great power politics is really at the bottom of a lot of criticism, plus the fact that you view this as a distraction from the main problem, which is the illegitimate regime in the US. That's true in part, but only in part. But the notion that neither Ukraine nor Europe are not important to US security is just madness, because walking away means turning over Europe's wealth and tech to Russia and China.
The irony is that Ukraine is likely to get much stronger security guarantees out of this than they would have before the war, possibly even involving the Turks.
As far as the freedom of the people of Ukraine, at least they elected their President. I can't say the same here.
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Using a crayon-like meme just makes the depth of the argument apparent.
Yes, but you apparently don’t work at the Pentagon, Langley or Raytheon. The FR has always had a large contingent of Keyboard Warriors (Armchair Division). REMFs.
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