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Posted on 03/04/2022 3:26:07 AM PST by marktwain
In Arizona, Senator Wendy Rogers has introduced a bill, AZ SB 1037, to remove silencers, suppressors, “gun mufflers” from the list of prohibited weapons in Arizona Revised Statutes 13-3101. Here is the basic change:
8. “Prohibited weapon”:
(a) Includes the following:
(i) An item that is a bomb, grenade, rocket having a propellant charge of more than four ounces or mine and that is explosive, incendiary or poison gas.
(ii) A device that is designed, made or adapted to muffle the report of a firearm.
(iii) (ii) A firearm that is capable of shooting more than one shot automatically, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.
This is a simple and straightforward bill. It removes gun mufflers from the state list of prohibited weapons. It does not do anything else.
The Arizona Citizen’s Defense League (AZCDL) supports SB 1037.
It is unclear how, exactly, this state of the law came to be. Not all states ban gun mufflers; not all states require their citizens/residents to comply with federal law on gun mufflers.
This correspondent’s speculation is: after the federal government required gun mufflers to pay an insane four months’ worth of wages for a tax stamp to own a gun muffler, ($200 was four months of wages in 1934), the bureaucrats in the treasury were worried about Constitutional challenges to the 1934 National Firearms Act (NFA). Very few cases are brought against people for the illegal possession of a gun muffler under the act. When they are, the possibility exists for Constitutional challenges.
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NFA would have never been passed.
Just another thing to restrict our rights and divide the country.
The NFA was originally designed to eliminate pistol ownership in the United States. The NRA foiled that part; pistols were removed from the NFA, and the restrictions on machineguns, silencers, and short barreled rifles and shotguns remained as a consolation prize for the Roosevelt administrations AG, who was the one pushing gun control.
We need to stop using THEIR language.
They are suppressors, not silencers.
Put a good suppressor on an AR and it sounds like a .22 LR Remington Yellow Jacket round. It is far from silent but is 4Ksafe/comfortable for use without hearing protection for the shooter.
Ignore the random K.
Lee Marvin's suppressed Colt Detective Special in "The Killers" was just Hollywood. But the simpletons in kongress think it's factual.
And, yes, we need to erase any laws restricting private ownership, including tax. We just need to drop the hammer on criminals and we won't need gun laws.
Good. We’re still just trying to get CC here in Georgia.
Perhaps of interest.
“We need to stop using THEIR language.
They are suppressors, not silencers.”
The original patent uses the ‘silencer’ in the description. Don’t get your underpants in a bunch over modern trendy semantic debates. In other news people have been calling ‘magazines’ ‘cips’ since they were invented. That ‘debate’ is also another nonsense modern indignation over nothing.
I’ll make my point clearer then ;-)
The useful idiots think “silencers” should be banned because they enable *silent* assassins/ are invisible to shot spotters / are a tool of ruthless killers etc.
Hollywood and uninformed authors reinforce the false impression that “all you hear is the sound of the action.” or a quiet “pfft pfft”.
I mount a SUPPRESSOR on my 223 and my 308 to protect my hearing AND to also not spook the wild hogs so much, and MAYBE get a shot at a second hog or coyote. FWIW the weight of the can also helps balance my AR-10 better.
My panties are not affected :-)
(iii) (ii) A firearm that is capable of shooting more than one shot automatically, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.
That should make the feel safer around their body guards.
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One of our biggest problems is Hollywoods portrail of guns which is rarely even close to reality.
Being a Zonie now “Cans”
are everwhere!
How will passage of this make it easier to get one?
How about
“45 Long Colt”-—?
A few here claim that’s
VERBOTEN!
It is part of the push for reform of the NFA. No reason for there to be a separate Arizona ban on suppressors/silencers/gun mufflers. From the article:
It is unclear how, exactly, this state of the law came to be. Not all states ban gun mufflers; not all states require their citizens/residents to comply with federal law on gun mufflers.
This correspondent’s speculation is: after the federal government required gun mufflers to pay an insane four months’ worth of wages for a tax stamp to own a gun muffler, ($200 was four months of wages in 1934), the bureaucrats in the treasury were worried about Constitutional challenges to the 1934 National Firearms Act (NFA). Very few cases are brought against people for the illegal possession of a gun muffler under the act. When they are, the possibility exists for Constitutional challenges.
The NFA is vulnerable from several different points of attack; on Second Amendment grounds; on interstate commerce grounds; and under the legitimacy of the tax, as the law was passed as a tax specifically as a “workaround” of Constitutional limitations on federal power. These could be avoided if possession of gun mufflers were prosecuted under state law instead of federal law. Federal regulators had a motive to push for state laws that mirrored federal law.
In addition, it makes prosecution under the federal law much more difficult.
I always thought a suppressor/silencer was intended to prevent the target from knowing he was being shot at until he was hit by a round. Dumb me...
Any supersonic round does that 😉
I should have indicated in case of a missed shot the target won’t know he’s been shot at...
Zat so?
The man who invented silencers seemed to think otherwise.
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