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What is Really Going on in Ukraine? An Alternative Scenario
Gateway Pundit ^ | Feb. 28, 2022 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 02/28/2022 5:38:24 AM PST by Rennes Templar

The Western media is filled with stories of the brave Ukrainian people rising up to fight the evil Russians and the Russians are paying a terrible toll, or so we are told. But if you step back and look at what is actually transpiring you will note the following:

Unlike the U.S. “shock and awe” unleashed on Baghdad in 2003, which caused significant civilian casualties and destroyed infrastructure and damaged power grids and destroyed bridges, the Russian military is avoiding hitting population centers. The power is still on in Kiev and Kharkiv last I checked.

You are not seeing raging battles in the streets of Kiev or Kharkov between Ukrainian and Russian military forces.

Some believe this indicates Putin’s troops are bogged down and making little progress. But I think there is an alternative explanation. First, Russia has not deployed its most sophisticated weaponry. It remains in place in Russia on the Ukrainian border but showing no signs as of this writing of being activated. Second, little attention is being paid to eastern Ukraine where the bulk of the Ukrainian Army is deployed. Jacob Dreizin offers some important insight on this:

You won’t hear this on CNN, but Putin’s Army of Darkness, in the most complex and ambitious ground maneuver operation since World War 2, following the Soviet “deep war” playbook, is also working on cutting off the Ukrainian army group in the Donbass from Kiev. This is by far the most capable (or only capable) large portion of the Ukrainian army. Yesterday, its main reserves of diesel fuel were destroyed from the air. It will soon be cut off and immobile.

Once that happens, the entire Donbass front collapses (they will no longer have a “front”), and BILLIONS of dollars in U.S.-funded or U.S.-supplied weaponry will be captured almost without a battle. (To be clear, it’s almost all U.S. funded or supplied—even most of the Soviet vintage stuff was bought and shipped in from Poland, Czechia, etc. by the CIA, “off the books” but well documented in videos of tank trains crossing the border into Ukraine, in 2015-2016.)

The Russians have finally entered Kharkov, Ukraine’s second largest city, very close to the Russian border. Previously, they had bypassed it the same way that America bypassed every town in southern Iraq to reach Baghdad in 2003. On Saturday night, they finally wasted all significant, organized resistance with a rain of thermobaric death in the outskirts. Today, they started to go in and mop up. Of course, it’s not a job for one day.

The Ukrainian army is falling back (mostly in organized fashion) throughout the Donbass. They have largely evacuated Mariupol, a very pro-Russian, major steelmaking and steel-shipping center (responsible for billions of dollars in exports) on the Sea of Azov. The sole garrison in Mariupol is now said to be the Azov regiment, a group of bona fide, tattooed Nazis—you know, your typical Ukrainian democracy guys, the ones the MSM doesn’t tell you about, and our State Department prefers to ignore. The kind of guys you must use to garrison a pro-Russian city that hates you.

The “real” army looks to be falling back to Dnepropetrovsk, about 60 miles west of Donetsk, if the Russians don’t cut them off—that’s now the big “if.” Either way, they’ll get hit badly from the air.

They are leaving behind lots of brand spanking new, British and American weaponry. I wish I had time to make a photo collage for you. It turns out, the stuff doesn’t work well. Among other things, you have to charge the battery on those Javelins or whatever. No charge, no fire. No one told them. I guess they had so many dumped on them, it was not realistic to plug them all into the wall, and sit there and wait. I can relate, I don’t even like waiting to charge one new smartphone.

The Ukrainian Air Force, what is left of it, is now flying on Helen Keller terms. It seems that Ukraine combat aircraft rely on ground controlled radar to conduct air to air intercepts. Guess what the Russians obliterated in the first hours of their invasion on Wednesday? If you said, “ground controlled radar” you are a winner.

Without that radar the Russians have air superiority. They have castrated the Ukrainians ability to provide close air support and disrupt Russian air cover. They are flying blind (if they are flying and can find an operational air field.) Then there are the lines of communication for the Ukrainian Army. Critical military fuel dumps are on fire and the ability of the Ukrainian Army to keep their tanks and trucks running is slipping away.

This perhaps explains the volte face of Zelensky in being willing to sit down with the Russians and try to negotiate an end to the evisceration of Ukraine’s military capability.


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To: Fury

Facts like the Ukrainian MP publicly stating they are fighting for the New World Order. 😆


161 posted on 02/28/2022 10:04:25 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: GOPJ

I’m glad to see some Freepers get it.


162 posted on 02/28/2022 10:05:19 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

I may have exaggerated a littlie, but their draftees are not too well trained and Russia does not have too much (nonnuclear) hardware. Russian army was so disorganized, that they used to sell arms for vodka and there were scandals when soldiers in remote locations starved to death!
Russia has élite forces, which they used, but they did not do to well so far. The rest is a rubble. Logistic does not exist.
They beat Germans, because they were attacked, and Russians are always very motivated when they are defending the homeland. The cruelty of the German attack did not help Germans either. Plus, they had lot of military stuff delivered to them form the USA.
Like US kind of knows too, it is different to defend your homeland or attack somebody whom you do not really hate that much.
Look, the same Soviets who beat Germany could not beat Finland! What the difference between defense and attack means!


163 posted on 02/28/2022 10:09:01 AM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Facts like the Ukrainian MP publicly stating they are fighting for the New World Order. 😆

EVIDENCE

A link.

164 posted on 02/28/2022 10:15:12 AM PST by Fury
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To: LS

If civilians were being slaughtered pell mell

We’d see it nonstop in this media complex we endure that acts lock step

And utility plants open is a major tell of intent

Putin wants change of govt and control of the east and northeast

That’s how I see it and anyone could see this coming

They had eight years after euromaiden

Instead they all got fat and listened to western overtures and lullabys including provisional nato membership

Why is anyone shocked Russia invades Ukraine… well I thought he could intimidate without invasion but I’ve no clue what assurances zelensky got from the west

So far they are fairly restrained and not using their best units and toys at least not in country

Once again innocent people die for the failures of their leaders

Ukraine has had some bad bad times and dished it out too

Just ask their Jewish population which today is almost nil

Before WWII JEWS were five percent of uke population

Now it’s 2/10ths of one percent

From nearly 3 million and one third of Uke urban areas in the 1920s to 70,000 today

Plenty uke Christians died too around 6-7 million

Russians and Germans and fellow ukes all killed uke citizens with reckless abandon

I’m not sure about the place

A breadbasket mostly easy terrain for tanks

I stand by my belief putin wants subordination via regime change and eastern full control not occupation

Like a movie we shall see


165 posted on 02/28/2022 10:20:16 AM PST by wardaddy (1-20-21 if ever was a day needed a reckoning settled with blood....I'm with Bannon)
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To: Fury

Aren’t you on twitter? 😮


166 posted on 02/28/2022 10:22:48 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: BobL

What are you talking about? Who gives a damn about lgbt, if you want to be homosexual, keep it to yourself


167 posted on 02/28/2022 10:49:26 AM PST by Cronos ( One cannot desire freedom from the Cross, especially when one is especially chosen for the cross)
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To: Chainmail
No. My point is to think for yourself. Just because history and Putin have legitimate concerns about the steps Ukraine has taken and because Putin is invading a country, there are NO good sides in this.

You think calling people Comrade because they disagree with your world view is snarky and intelligent. It's shows how utterly stupid you really must be.

Try reading some books now and then, it might just expand your vocabulary. Dolt.

168 posted on 02/28/2022 10:54:52 AM PST by Solson (DeSantis/Hawley 2024!)
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To: Chainmail

Didn’t the Ukrainians falsify a story against Trump known as pee gate? Weren’t the bribing Hunter and Biden?


169 posted on 02/28/2022 11:05:25 AM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: Solson
"Dolt"? Really? Just because anyone at all above the IQ of tapwater can see the Russians rolling in on an independent country as a genuine, believe-your-own eyes aggressor, your great final argument is to call names?

Bet you any amount of money you've never been to Russia or Ukraine, have you?

I have - and I learned that are charming, likeable people who would cut our throats if they felt like it.. But armed, open warfare is an escalation we can't afford to ignore.

170 posted on 02/28/2022 11:16:08 AM PST by Chainmail (Frater magnus te spectat)
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To: Sam Gamgee

No and yes. They were bribing Hunter and bunches more - but should they have been attacked? No.


171 posted on 02/28/2022 11:18:48 AM PST by Chainmail (Frater magnus te spectat)
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To: Chainmail

Hunter was flying all over the world on AF2 with Joe and collecting bribes. This fixation about Biden & Ukraine is just a useful tool for some.


172 posted on 02/28/2022 11:20:30 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Chainmail
What makes Ukraine "independent"?

Zelensky has jailed and tortured his opposition and shut down newspapers who spoke against his efforts. He was put in place after a coup to overthrow a "democratically elected president" which was back, supported, and engineered by the United States. Crimea and the Donbas have always been disputed and a large amount of the population in that area has and will continue to support Russia.

Okay smart guy, what makes them "independent"?

173 posted on 02/28/2022 12:55:24 PM PST by Solson (DeSantis/Hawley 2024!)
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To: Solson
"Okay smart guy, what makes them "independent"?"

About a thousand years of history, for one thing and their own language and culture. The Ukraine nation existed before Russia did.

The Ukraine has been repeatedly conquered by the Russians and then starved by the millions by the Soviets.

As far as their elections go and their pick as president, it's their business, not Putin's - and the Russians are thieving their land on the pretense that "rebel Ukrainians" are calling for their help - which is horsehockey, as always.

BTW, where did the antiaircraft missile that was fired at the unarmed and unwarned Dutch airliner come from? Answer, the Russian government. Whose sniper was it during an unarmed protest demonstration, executing over 20 Ukrainians? Answer: Putin's man.

174 posted on 02/28/2022 1:09:27 PM PST by Chainmail (Frater magnus te spectat)
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To: volunbeer; Rennes Templar
He wins the battle and loses the war.

Or, he could lose the battle and yet win the war. Depends on what you believe the war is.

Too few are paying attention to the fact that Putin is jeopardizing the wealth of the 500 or so oligarchs in Russia who own everything.

True. I would then suggest that they might be a little angry about being robbed by the world-wide organized crime syndicate headquarter in the Ukraine.

They are the ones who will be hurt most by this war and when you cost a Russian Oligarch billions you might not like the result.

This war has been going on for longer than one might imagine. So... the robbery already occured. What you are seeing is the response.

The object of the game is to wipe out this criminal network stationed in the Ukraine. They are stealing money from the Ukrainians, the Russians, and you.

During the onset of the UK vs. Russia encounter, a huge sum of money went missing from a huge bribe. Which 'family' stole it ? Are they going to share with their 'brothers in crime' ?

175 posted on 02/28/2022 2:36:12 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

And you would be right. the fact that many here on FR can’t tell obvious propaganda is telling...


176 posted on 02/28/2022 3:25:45 PM PST by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: fatboy

True, I also replaced my out of date Potassium Iodide tablets too though.


177 posted on 02/28/2022 3:47:23 PM PST by BlackAdderess (Hope for the best, prepare for the worst)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Putin has specific targets. He’s removing the cabal NWO from the Ukraine. Its very surgical. All this other BS you are reading and hearing is bunk.

BTTT (it's spreading,but very few are aware of this. I wonder who's got the missing bribe money ?)

178 posted on 02/28/2022 4:23:23 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: AZJeep

Look, the same Soviets who beat Germany could not beat Finland!

You forgot that the Finns had thrown off the Communist yoke and would rather die than return to it.


179 posted on 02/28/2022 6:47:22 PM PST by Western Phil
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To: cdcdawg

The Ukrainians are beating back the Russian invasion by dropping anvils on them and tricking them into running off of cliffs.

~~~

thanks for the laugh!


180 posted on 02/28/2022 7:46:32 PM PST by bitt ( <img src=' 'width=50%>)
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