Men and Divorce Court | Greg Ellis | The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast | #238

YouTube ^ | December 14th, 2021 | Jordan B Peterson

[Jeff Chandler]

It's a video. No, I won't transcribe it for you and I don't care if you hate videos. Don't be a dick; just don't click.

[colorado tanker]

Years ago our office manager went through a messy divorce and his wife played the abuse card. He was very lucky that one of my partners represented him for free. Even so, he damn near had to register as a sex offender. All because of a vindictive lie.

[AbolishCSEU]

Happens all the time:

https://shrink4men.com/2011/05/17/does-your-wife-or-ex-wife-have-a-golden-uterus-complex-15-characteristics-of-the-golden-uterus/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/co-parenting-after-divorce/201711/the-life-the-alienated-parent

[Sequoyah101]

There was a saying, “If it floats, flucks or flies; rent it.

Pretty good advice.

[Sequoyah101]

Flys?

[Pikachu_Dad]

he means planes.

[higgmeister]

Coming up on 48 years, I pity the fools won't have the same woman with them to the bitter end.   As you have explained this video, I don't think I need to click either.

[mcshot]

aka ‘vestal virgin’?

[Albion Wilde]

bump

[amihow]

What I tell young men is there is a very simple solution to this problem—if you want to marry a woman make sure she has better job prospects and wealth than you do.

Then suddenly the risk/reward analysis looks a lot different....
,............
And she ends up with more SS than you who looks like the calculating soy boy that you are.

[Keyhopper]

I tell the young fellas at work.....
Just go find a woman that hates your guts.
Buy her a house.
Give her half your pay for the next 20 years.
I just saved you about 100K in legal fees.
You’re welcome!

[Jeff Chandler]

Yeah, I’ve grown kinda fond of Mrs. Chandler. Going on 46 years of marriage.

[ottbmare]

Peterson is a hero. He has saved the lives of many people, mostly young men. It has been thrilling to watch him stumble toward Christ.

[TChad]

I've watched an hour of it so far. Whew. Both those guys have barely survived lives that became multi-year nightmares.

Show that video to a group of 18 year old males, and see how many never get married.

So much for "He just refuses to commit! So immature!"

[cgbg]

Outlive her and the “calculating soy boy” becomes a wealthy soy boy.

;-)

[amihow]

Yes. Isn’t outliving her the idea

[cgbg]

“Marrying up” in wealth and income is not that difficult for young men these days.

It really is like a free insurance policy—with a lot of the risk gone, you can relax and be happy—whoever you are.

(True story—I know a distant relative—male—who inherited a ridiculous amount of wealth. He was terrified that women would only marry him for his money and then treat him badly.
It took him a while, but he managed to find a women that he wanted to marry from a family wealthier than his. They have been happily married for many decades. They don’t even argue about charities—they have separate bank accounts so they can make their own choices.)

[Albion Wilde]

Both sexes suffer tremendously under the courts. Both sexes have places where they are powerless in the system.

You are correct. The adversarial legal model under "no-fault", a fundamental contradiction that can only be addressed through denial of justice, is extremely destructive. Everyone suffers—mothers, fathers and children—except for the divorce industry practitioners who profit off the misery of others.

[Albion Wilde]

"He just refuses to commit! So immature!"

Once feminism drove women over to the male standard of "courtship"—sex outside of marriage—the entire system crashed and burned. Now, only a minority percentage of lucky ones escape a soul-scourging in the attempt to find or keep a life partner.

[Chickensoup]

Everyone suffers—mothers, fathers and children—except for the divorce industry practitioners who profit off the misery of others.

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There is no fixing it. The law-fare system we have now needs to be eliminated.

[Albion Wilde]

There is no fixing it. The law-fare system we have now needs to be eliminated.

In view that this is a fallen world, there is no system that can do any better except a widespread revival of holy living.

Don't hold your breath waiting for it. We are now in an era of "everyone for zirself."