Posted on 01/18/2022 6:35:36 AM PST by NOBO2012
Good points. Especially your points about college debt.
I see this as (at least) a two layer problem:
Young people have debt but may not be terribly employable. They can be quite vocal about their need for “stuff” even if they don’t work.
Another layer would be long-time American workers who may be 40 or 50 or 60 and they are fed up with a system that just doesn’t seem to work anymore. There are a lot of early retirements out there. People are leaving corporate America and settling for much simpler jobs so that they can do more living and less careerism, because the careerism wasn’t satisfying.
I think our vision of “work” should be re-examined.
Ok, they leave the work force reducing to pool of workers and wages should rise as a result. This should be enticing more to seek employment. That is the way it word BEFORE GLOBALISM and unbridled KEGAL immigration.
And yet Doreen apparently is driving a car, a vehicle that was manufactured by a company that sells them to stay in business. Such a hypocrite she is.
I agree. That really has nothing to do with this discussion. None of the nitwits you see referenced in this Reddit group are going to be working on an oil rig or an assembly line at a Ford plant.
Google H-1B and get back to us....
Mexicans can run a fastfood joint fast. Try going to a fastfood today with anyone else and it is a pathetic display of gross incometence and laziness.
That may be true in its fiercest, early stages - but eventually, it leads to the situation where "the authorities pretend they are paying wages, and workers pretend they are working."
Regards,
Time for true life stories..
I am very intellegent. I look at my job, and figure out a way to do it quicker and more accurately.
I do 8 hours of work in 4 hours.
Am I congratulated? No.
Do I get raises? No.
What I get is more work dumped on me, while making the same as the other people who’s work I am now doing.
Soon, I am sitting in my cubicle busting my butt to keep up, while my co-workers are mingling around, chatting and laughing.
I ask for a raise, and carefully explain what is going on and why I deserve more money.
I am told I am lucky to have a job.
I find another job.
Now, all of a sudden, they are offering me the moon to stay.
Screw that!!!!
The time to take care of a good employee is while they are still working for you, not after they have left.
And the day they give you notice is not the day they left. They left weeks or months ago, when they started looking for another job.
The other push is high input costs for everything, with less ability to pass it on. So a business owner looks at wages as the last place to maybe hold the line.
My projects are currently running double of what they were a year ago. That means two things.
1. Less projects (less capital to do what needs to be done)
2. I am not getting much of a raise this year (since the costs when sky high, my company will not be able to pay me more).
People don’t realize #2. Wages are sticky, since the price of steel may go down, but give everyone a 20% raise and you are stuck.
In stead of the early hopes, I see this supply issue pushing off shoring even more. When labor is the last thing you can control, it becomes the only motivating factor. Madness, but I am seeing it already.
She?
In my previously life I worked in corporate management in a STEM industry. It’s a stable industry where you don’t get rich, but there’s always work to be done. One of the things I really got to enjoy about my work was interviewing prospective employees. For some reason I had a knack for finding good talent that most of our competitors tended to overlook.
Something in these young prospective employees changed around the mid-2000s, and I have no doubt that it had very negative implications for my industry in particular but also for the country as a whole. For the first time in my career I was finding that the typical entry-level job applicant had the following characteristics (and #4 was the one that really raised alarm bells in my head):
1. Age: 24-26 years old.
2. Education: top schools in my STEM field.
3. Grades: exceptional.
4. Previous Employers / Work Experience: NONE. These young job applicants had reached their mid-20s without ever working a day in their lives.
Invariably, these people ended up being the most disappointing, high-maintenance employees I’ve ever dealt with. They were very immature by nature and had absolutely zero coping skills.
And they expected top pay, no work, and the ability to demand changes to projects with no experience, understanding, or rational.
“I feel this is the best solution!” “That will mean the tank collapses and we go boom.”
“YOU SEXIST MANSPLAINING AHOLE! I AM CALLING HR!”
After the fourth time we stop caring.
I think that is spot on. I have found myself in that situation repeatedly.
I have had a very successful career and I make very good money. But I have worked for a lot of companies, and usually I have been considered a star contributor. It is not a good situation to be in. As you say, you get more work dumped on you, and you watch less motivated, less competent people relax at their desk for pretty much the same rewards. If you complain it’s “You’re lucky to have a job”.
I think corporate America has let a lot of people down. And I say that as a very successful guy with a six figure salary, nice house, nice town, nice family. I am living the American Dream. I made it. And I’m grousing because I see that our society treats workers poorly.
“One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich” should be required reading.
No, they don’t beg on a street corner, they just send the wife to the social services office.
The chick-fil-a stores around here run like a swiss watch and tend to hire people that can speak fluent english.
I work at home, and don't even have buttheads anywhere around me.
(When you stop working, you die.)
That is the truth. I am not sure what to recommend for kids to go into. Health? Talking with my NP (Haven’t had an actual doctor for a while) the wage squeeze is such she is telling her kids to not go into medicine. Law? I know a lot of lawyers my age fighting to pay off student loan debt. Engineering? You have a very difficult degree path, massive debt, and a career averaging less than 10 years before you get pushed in the “to old” category.
That leaves working for the .gov. Get your loans paid off, stable employment, and if you are a protected class a job for life with no or little risk of being fired. Sure, you have to deal with all kinds of woke crap and God help you if you if you are a straight man, but you can have a nice middle class life.
I have a six figure salary, but with the current inflation I was told “Red, we are going to have small raises or cuts in order to make up some losses in capital.” Small enough firm that I know the people all up the chain are doing the same. At the same time, I am hard pressed to hire more people. I raised my wages twice, which cuts into maintenance and production budgets, and creates all sorts of discontent (a guy who worked hard for years seeing a new guy getting what took him a decade to make angers most. Even if they get a similar raise). I am afraid mass layoffs are coming, because there is no capital to keep this up.
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