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Life insurer refuses to cover vaccine death
https://freewestmedia.com ^ | January 14, 2022 | FWMSTAFF

Posted on 01/17/2022 3:02:08 PM PST by Enterprise

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To: flamberge

Its true they were deceived. Why is that the fault of the insurance company? Sorry but this was beyond stupid on the part of the public.. Since we (me & my family especially) didn’t fall for it, the PT Barnum theory on Suckers Born Every Minute still is relevant for those that did. Its tragic, but notice that the insurance companies were not the ones forcing it down the throats of the public. Sorry so many fell for the scam, and Fauci was the anonymous Nigerian Prince, ut I remember all of the vaxxed calling me stupid for not getting it. Sorry not my issue. Rule #1 is never ever trust the government! #2 is never trust anyone who works for the government #3 when they use your God given rights against you, you should know something is wrong.


81 posted on 01/17/2022 8:43:21 PM PST by The MAGA-Deplorian ( 2022 - VOTE THE BUMS OUT —— ALL OF THEM! RE-ELECT NO ONE!!)
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To: The MAGA-Deplorian
Its true they were deceived. Why is that the fault of the insurance company?

Because the insurance company, if they are changing the rules after-the-fact, are accomplices to the deception. If they benefit from the deception, they are effective partners with the deceivers, and deserve the same fate.

There seems to be a great many "IF's" in this tale.

I do note that entire story could be fiction, due to the lack of confirming details. And of course, we have specific denials from insurance industry organizations that any American companies are currently following such a "Gotcha" policy as refusing to pay a death benefit for a policy holder who allegedly died from the mRNA treatment.

Which would be quite a "Gotcha", since too many large corporations have already demanded their employees take the mRNA treatment as a condition of employment. Millions of people have yielded to that coercion. Surviving family members and relatives might be just a little bit peeved if these things do not work out as promised. And even more peeved if insurance companies refuse to pay out.

As in torches and pitchforks peeved. What would they have left to lose at such a point?

The whole thing could be a projection of people's fears as all the rules around them keep changing.

But I am reminded of the line from the movie Animal House; "You fucked up. You trusted us".

82 posted on 01/17/2022 9:25:49 PM PST by flamberge (Believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear)
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To: flamberge

Because the insurance company, if they are changing the rules after-the-fact, are accomplices to the deception

Sorry but the vaccine is experimental, no matter what the Biden of Fauci liars say. Theres no insurance company stupid enough to cover that. If companies are forcing you to get it, then its they that assume the liability. This is their edict. Now if you die of COVID without a shot, then yeah insurance companies should pay up. You take an experimental shot that enhances your ability to get COVID over and over and over again, cancel the policy! This is a racket from big business and big pharma. Sue them.


83 posted on 01/19/2022 11:52:57 AM PST by The MAGA-Deplorian ( 2022 - VOTE THE BUMS OUT —— ALL OF THEM! RE-ELECT NO ONE!!)
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To: The MAGA-Deplorian
This is a racket from big business and big pharma. Sue them.

An essential part of the racket is that the Government has granted big pharma a specific "lawful" exemption from all liabilities for this experimental procedure - and then has "mandated" Federal employees to accept the procedure.

Government has also encouraged big corporations of every sort to "mandate" the experimental procedure as a condition of employment. And those corporations have enthusiastically cooperated.

The Courts have offered weak opposition, and in the case of healthcare workers, have acquiesced to the Executive orders. Basically, every company that accepts Federal contracts will be forced to eventually comply.

This is a mockery of "law" and lawsuits will not settle the conflict. Other means will be used.

As the "All-cause" mortality rates continue to climb, the insurance companies may attempt to protect themselves by not paying claims. That will make them very inviting targets.

Deaths of a large percent of the population tend to make the surviving relatives and friends very angry. Government has every incentive to deflect the wrath of the population towards groups other than Government.

In a Rule-of-Law", the insurance companies might be considered innocent of wrongdoing, should they deny claims, and raise rates. The mRNA treatment is, as you point out, an experimental procedure with considerable, and unknown risks. Perhaps voiding a life-insurance policy might be considered legitimate, even if the patient was coerced into accepting the treatment. I don't personally accept that premise.

But we no longer have a "Rule-of-Law" to settle these conflicts.

84 posted on 01/19/2022 1:30:42 PM PST by flamberge (Believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear)
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But again, why is any of this the fault of insurance companies?. Prove there was an unholy menage de’ trois when insurance companies were involved in forcing the vax with big pharma and big buisness, hey fine. I right there with you. But the shot was a voluntary choice. Many people quit over this, and any job that forces me to inject myself is a job I quit. The companies forced them illegally, so they are liable, period. Mine was going to force the vax on us, ut thankfully the lawyer said that the deadline would be in February. Once SCOTUS ruled, they dropped it. Remember this was a mandate, not federal law.


85 posted on 01/19/2022 3:23:09 PM PST by The MAGA-Deplorian ( 2022 - VOTE THE BUMS OUT —— ALL OF THEM! RE-ELECT NO ONE!!)
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To: The MAGA-Deplorian
But the shot was a voluntary choice.

For a large number of people, it was not.

There is nothing voluntary about "take the jab or lose your job".

But again, why is any of this the fault of insurance companies?

It isn't. The insurance companies are "most likely to be nominated as the fall guys" when things go really bad. If they really do try to cancel policies for the jabbed, they will be handing over a knife that will be used to cut their own throats. There is a lot of money there that the Government would be tempted to steal as "compensation".

People must believe that the insurance companies will operate as promised and won't use "Gotcha's" to deny payouts for life insurance. Lose that belief and life insurance will cease to be a viable product. Even worse consequences are possible. Like executives and their families barricaded in burning residences with angry mobs outside.

For new life policies, with an upfront "vaccination exclusion", the situation would be vastly different. And people would have a genuine choice to make with rationally predictable outcomes. I believe insurance companies are unlikely to do that because it will set them directly against the Government narrative. But their actuaries know what is going on.

Prove there was an unholy menage de’ trois when insurance companies were involved in forcing the vax with big pharma and big business

I don't need any "proof" to rile up an angry mob that will support "reparations". Neither does the Government. And I am not asserting that insurance companies actually conspired with pharmaceutical companies force the vax and to deny payouts for life insurance. It is not in their best interest to do any of that.

They are between a rock and a hard place. On even-numbered days I actually feel sorry for them.

The companies forced them illegally, so they are liable, period.

The "Rule-of-Law" has been dead in this country for quite a while now. Large companies are certainly not being cautious about requiring the "vaccination" as a condition of employment or new hire. Why, it is almost like the executives feel that they are all exempt from any liabilities. After all, the Government says the "vaccine" is "safe and effective". And the Executive branch is urging corporations to "voluntarily" implement mandates for vaccination, never mind what the Court says.

Besides, they have more lawyers than you do. They can keep liability suites in court for decades if necessary. And it will be necessary. There are not enough corporate assets in the entire economy to pay for the prospective liabilities accrued from the deaths of 200 million people. If that comes to pass, the settlements will be at the end of a rope for all the principals who can be identified and tracked down.

The only thing that is restraining companies is "The Great Resignation". They are losing too many critical-skilled people and they cannot hire enough replacements to continue stable operations. That is explicitly the reason a few companies have back away from "mandates".

Lawyers do not make these kinds of decisions. They make up plausible rationalizations for them, so the company won't look bad.

I am pleased to read your report that your employer seems to be one of those more sensible and cautious organizations.

86 posted on 01/19/2022 5:27:00 PM PST by flamberge (Believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear)
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To: flamberge

But the shot was a voluntary choice.
For a large number of people, it was not.

Show me one gun to a persons head. Take a jab or your fired, isn’t a force, its a choice ultimatum. Some people took the old Johnny Paycheck stance and told them to shove the job. Others cowardly out of financial fear, traded their health for job security in a job they probably hate.

What a person believes an insurance company will cover is usually revealed after they get hit by a flood, and thats not covered. Life insurances don’t cover suicide or murder, so I fail to see how or why they would cover a voluntary experimental jab.

Time will tell. Just saying that if it was the MAGA Deplorian Insurance Company, I would tell them go ahead and sue! You weren’t forced and it was experimental.


87 posted on 01/19/2022 8:29:44 PM PST by The MAGA-Deplorian ( 2022 - VOTE THE BUMS OUT —— ALL OF THEM! RE-ELECT NO ONE!!)
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To: The MAGA-Deplorian
Life insurances don’t cover suicide or murder

Many of them do cover suicide, though there is often a five-year exclusion period for such coverage - and substantial premiums added. Being murdered is hardly grounds for a payout denial in any policy of which I have ever heard. Check out the "Dead Peasant" insurance policies that convenience store companies routinely take out on the lives of their store managers.

It is not about what may not be covered. An upfront condition that is clearly identified as an exclusion is perfectly legitimate.

If the MAGA Deplorian Insurance Company writes a life insurance policy that plainly excludes death attributed to the mRNA treatment from coverage, there is nothing wrong with that.

Other than the Government will take offense to that contradiction of their "safe and effective" narrative. And they will find 17 ways to destroy the company through regulatory audits and violation findings.

Maybe that is why the big insurance companies are mostly staying quiet about this. But they are about to lose a very large amount of money if they don't do something. Their actuaries can tell them how much they are going to lose - to four decimal places. They have enough data right now.

Take a jab or your fired, isn’t a force, it's a choice ultimatum.

I see that as a coercive measure just barely short of a gun to the head. And in any case, it is a completely illegitimate demand from an employer or a government. Walking away from such organizations is the right and best thing to do.

Congratulations to you for having the financial resources, and the courage to face your employer and say Hell No! Even better that your employer backed away in the face of too many such refusals.

When the government is pressuring all employers to adopt the same illegitimate policy, there is no place to run. And the ultimate enforcement of harmful policy leads quite literally to a gun pointed at someone's head.

"Go ahead and sue! We got more lawyers than you!" is indeed the policy of most large organizations. It is not going to work this time.

Considering the magnitude of the potential early deaths and resulting losses from the "mandated" mRNA treatments, if these are realized, the legal arguments will become irrelevant.

The bets are mostly all in, and we all just waiting now for the big "reveal". As you say, "Time will tell". It is already whispering pretty loud.

88 posted on 01/19/2022 9:40:46 PM PST by flamberge (Believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear)
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