Posted on 01/05/2022 9:23:44 AM PST by Renkluaf
h/t gringojay – An ice storm and accident stranded drivers in freezing conditions on the Virginia I-95 overnight on Monday. My question – what would have happened if they were all driving electric vehicles?
27-hour commute: Virginia officials pelted with questions after hundreds of drivers were stuck on I-95 overnight
Ryan W. MillerDoyle Rice USA TODAY
The winter storm blanketed several states in the mid-Atlantic and South on Monday, closing schools and causing power outages.
In Virginia, drivers were stranded in a 50-mile stretch of Interstate 95 near Fredericksburg overnight. Five deaths across three states were caused by the weather.
Ice and snow stranded hundreds of drivers on Interstate 95 in Virginia into Tuesday after a winter storm pounded several Eastern states and dumped more than a foot of snow in some places.
The storm brought havoc to roadways, left more than 300,000 without power in Virginia and Maryland and caused at least five deaths across three states.
No injuries or fatalities from the storm or the traffic backup were reported in Virginia.
Problems began Monday morning when a truck jackknifed on Interstate 95, the main north-south highway along the East Coast, triggering a swift chain reaction as other vehicles lost control, state police said.
On a roughly 50-mile stretch of I-95 near Fredericksburg, drivers were stuck in their cars overnight while ice blanketed the freeway. The Virginia Department of Transportation tweeted Tuesday that the stretch of the interstate remained closed.
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Josh Lederman, a reporter with NBC News, tweeted that he was stuck in his car overnight and many motorists turned off their cars to conserve gas.
“People (myself included) are taking exercise breaks outside their cars, walking their dogs on the interstate. I’ve been putting snow in his bowl and letting it melt into water,” he tweeted, detailing the ordeal.
Sen. Kaine finally arrived in Washington Tuesday afternoon, some 27 hours after his journey began.
Drivers survived the Monday traffic jam by periodically running their engines to stay warm. When the traffic finally started moving again, most vehicles had enough gasoline to finish their journeys.
President Biden is pushing everyone to switch to electric vehicles, as part of his Net Zero plan. But EV batteries suffer severe performance drops in freezing conditions, and are more likely than gasoline engines to fail completely in severe conditions. Even if the EV batteries don’t freeze, an EV battery contains nowhere near as much energy as a tank of gas, so the safety margin is a lot thinner, for people stranded in severe weather who are using the stored energy of their vehicle to stay warm.
In my opinion, if everyone stuck on the I-95 had been driving an EV, the I-95 ice storm traffic jam could have become a mass casualty event.
“The hot engine heats the passengers you moron! What’s a heater core?”
Meanwhile it heats the engine compartment, keeps hundreds of parts moving and sends waste heat out the exhaust.
Meanwhile, the EV sends all drawn energy into heating.
You should take a physics course and learn the laws of thermodynamics....not that it would matter!
An UBER driver recently went over 300,000 miles. Only maintenance was installing a refurbished battery for about $5k.
“Home heating/cooling heat pumps use stored energy from underground.”
No they do not. You are thinking of geothermal which we use in our house. Our last house used a heat pump and nothing was transferred to or from the ground.
Go to Toyotas tech pages. Are they going to outright lie what their EV’s technology can and cannot do?
Before saying everything is a lie do some basic research and learn something.
“You should take a physics course and learn the laws of thermodynamics....not that it would matter!”
Been there, done that.
We could discuss facts instead of you only making personal attacks but that would require some knowledge on your part.
Wow! This guy is a real genius. Anyone with half a brain cell figured this out decades ago.
Glad you’re OK.
It seems that the Highway Patrol was on a coffee break. I have been in similar situations on I-80 in Nevada and I-15 in Utah. The police led cars and trucks in a caravan off exits to wait out the storm. Now in southern Utah the exits are far between, but I think it was around Fillmore that we spent four hours in a gas station’s service bays with about forty other people. There were snacks and free coffee and bathrooms. When the road was cleared we were led through the pass in group of twenty with an escort. I know I-95 is busy, but they should have done something. I always carried sleeping bags, food, flares, CB radio, extra spare tire, shovels etc and had at least half a tank of gas. I’m sure some of these folks were wearing shorts and flip flops.
Regarding drywall - are you saying it's better than plaster? Drywall is certainly quicker and cheaper, but it's nowhere as durable as plaster. There are many houses in my area with original horse hair plaster put up 250 years ago. Drop me a line when drywall reaches that milestone.
Last thing - why are you on a platform for conservatism? You're a vaxnazi and are touting EV's that government is trying to jam down our throats.
“they are not drawing a line in the sand where all their vehicles will be EV”
From toyota.com: Toyota to invest $35 billion into battery-powered EVs and roll out 30 models by 2030. ... It aims to increase global sales of battery electric vehicles by 3.5 million units a year by 2030.
“EV’s that government is trying to jam down our throats”
Car manufactuers are pushing for EV’s, not the gov’t. Gm said Ev’s take a 1/3 of the labor to produce and have half the parts. They said their future warranty work with EV’s will be 10% of gas models. No more cooling system issues, transmissions going out, fuel problems etc. It’s about money and profit to these companies not saving the enviroment. Srs. look it up and read why every company wants EV’s. It’s all about the benjamins.
“Last thing - why are you on a platform for conservatism? You’re a vaxnazi and are touting EV”
Plenty of conservatives are vaccinated. Many here have said so though if thye mention it they are attacked by a vocal antivaxxnazis.
EV’s are not liberal or conservative except to strict idealogues like yourself making an issue out of it.. Every person I know who has driven an EV loves it...conservative and liberal.
This guy says that the Prius has a “heat recirculation system” to pull heat from the ICE exhaust in order to warm the electric system:
https://www.cars.com/articles/how-does-the-toyota-prius-handle-winter-1420692904443/
Toyota is NOT putting all their eggs in the EV basket. It is taking a cautious wait and see approach. Toyoda also is dubious whether the grid will be able to handle all the required electricity. He understands how the infrastructure needs to be increased, which will belch more carbon into the air in Japan, a country that gets most of their energy from hydrocarbons.
Here's a novel thought for you - you drive what you want, I'll drive what I want and to hell with big gov butting into each other's business.
Every person I know who has driven an EV loves it...conservative and liberal.
Every person who has driven a Shelby GT350R loves it, not just the ones I know.
27 hours
How many urinations on the side of the road occurred?
Will grass ever grow there again?
Asking for an incontinent friend
“It is taking a cautious wait and see approach. Toyoda also is dubious whether the grid will be able to handle all the required electricity. He understands how the infrastructure needs to be increased, which will belch more carbon into the air in Japan, a country that gets most of their energy from hydrocarbons”
The quote I posted is from Toyota USA for the US market. As for the US grid nearly all states except for a few produce more electricity than they use. Washington state for instance sells about 25% of their production to Canada. We actually use less power today than we did 20 years ago most to energy saving appliances, led bulbs etc and people are just more energy conscious. 177 new natural gas power plants are curently being built in the US Two are near me.
“Every person who has driven a Shelby GT350R loves it, not just the ones I know”
I have owned and restored and bought about 20+ muscle cars since my first in 1978. I have owned an R code Mustang and one 67 Cobra Jet Mustang and two 396 Chevelles among numerous small block versions. I know the thrill.
I also have seen where Tesla has a stock production EV 4 door sedan that runs 8.94 in the quarter mile right out of the box with no mods-it’s version of say the Dodge Hellcat. That is why Dodge is coming up with their own EV Dodge Challenger in 2022 to compete
“In Virginia, drivers were stranded in a 50-mile stretch of Interstate 95 near Fredericksburg overnight.”
Another example highlighting the stupidity of the deep state, noodle-arm bureaucrats infesting DC. These morons were warned of an imminent snowstorm. Yet these DC bureaucrats living in Virginia piled in their cars and headed out, with no tire chains, no blankets, no snacks and no water in their cars.
I continue to urge people to take a walk thru any federal bureaucracy and see the fat, stupid, low-IQ morons sitting at their desks, eating two-pound bags of potato chips and guzzling two-liter bottles of coke. These are weenies with marshmallow faces.
An expert on electrical grid too— wow that is amazing! And... completely wrong. Get back to the real world when the entire US grid is supplied by nuclear power, with all that unlikelihood implies for the “future” of “all cars sold being EVs”— they won’t be. Comment made by someone who knows A LOT about nuclear power, and refueling naval vessels.
Experience, for real with Teslas, have proven radically different performance outcomes from what they claim. Have two vehicles conventionally powered which have ranges in excess of 500 miles, so big woop for new battery powered cars operating in only optimal conditions. The Mercedes which incredibly are touted— every single one of them has a price tag over 100K which removes most of the arguments for “cost efficiency”— that is a joke.
Got stuck in a traffic jam this morning due to a bad wreck. Was beside a Nissan Leaf and hoped that he had a full charge before leaving this morning.
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