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The Bell Tolls for Tenure?
James G. Martin Center for Academic Renewal ^ | January 3, 2022 | Jay Schalin

Posted on 01/04/2022 12:18:07 PM PST by karpov

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1 posted on 01/04/2022 12:18:07 PM PST by karpov
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“principal purpose … is to safeguard academic freedom.”

Doesn’t seem to have worked very well. Lol. I haven’t seen any evidence of academic freedom in years. Unless it’s the freedom to make up woke fakery.


2 posted on 01/04/2022 12:21:32 PM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: karpov

Why not make retention of all tenured positions contingent on breaking rocks in the hot sun. At least they’d have skin in the game.


3 posted on 01/04/2022 12:22:39 PM PST by Track9 (Agamemnon came home to a HRC type party. )
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Once you get tenure you should not be allowed to vote on new tenured positions.

This is how liberals keep conservatives out.


4 posted on 01/04/2022 12:24:14 PM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: karpov

When I was in college back in the seventies, we had another word for tenure. Retired.


5 posted on 01/04/2022 12:29:59 PM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud?)
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As long as people do not pay for their own education, political/activist professors will be in control


6 posted on 01/04/2022 12:35:54 PM PST by PGR88
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“The State” newspaper that “the point of tenure is to prevent political, corporate, or other interests from interfering in research or steering the curriculum.”

Well, to any half-assed observer, it has failed miserably.

7 posted on 01/04/2022 12:36:39 PM PST by libertylover (Our BIGGEST problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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Tenure is PATHETIC, but even tenure doesn’t protect professors who the students decide to ‘take out’, by making Kavenaugh-type accusations.


8 posted on 01/04/2022 12:41:16 PM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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It’s the academic equivalent of being a made man.


9 posted on 01/04/2022 12:45:30 PM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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There’s almost no academic freedom left and ironically it is due to communist and Islamonazis getting tenure and then harassing and intimidating Jews, Christians, and anybody not singing or shouting Marxist slogans


10 posted on 01/04/2022 12:48:00 PM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They’re excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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[Tenure’s] “principal purpose … is to safeguard academic freedom.”
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As recent events demonstrate that might be tenure’s biggest drawback.


11 posted on 01/04/2022 12:48:42 PM PST by nagant
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Academic freedom...

Snort.

This is about cost control.

Permanent visiting adjunct perfessers.

Bwah hah hah hah hah!


12 posted on 01/04/2022 12:50:50 PM PST by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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Why only Communist, who are using education as front to disseminate leftist propaganda, get tenure?

Why don’t roofers, electricians, framers, cab drivers and everyone else in the private sector get tenure?


13 posted on 01/04/2022 12:53:39 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Could be a good thing. Could be used by leftist students to get the few conservative professors fired.


14 posted on 01/04/2022 12:55:35 PM PST by FormerFRLurker
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To: Seruzawa

Well, that was the original purpose.

To ensure that a professor could continue to teach controversial things even if nearly everyone was offended.


15 posted on 01/04/2022 12:57:58 PM PST by Republican in occupied CA (I will not give up on my native State! Here I was born, here I fight and die!!)
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To: nagant

It’s only a drawback if you disagree with them.

Tenure *should* be strong enough to protect even the most ardently conservative professor in the most liberal college.

The problem is with the implementation.

The underlying idea of “No matter how much you HATE what a professor is teaching, they have a right to teach it that is irrespective of your prejudices” is a sound one.


16 posted on 01/04/2022 1:04:04 PM PST by Republican in occupied CA (I will not give up on my native State! Here I was born, here I fight and die!!)
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To: faithhopecharity

“There’s almost no academic freedom left and ironically it is due to communist and Islamonazis getting tenure and then harassing and intimidating Jews, Christians, and anybody not singing or shouting Marxist slogans.”

That is absolutely the case.


17 posted on 01/04/2022 1:13:26 PM PST by odawg
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To: karpov

If we can eliminate tenure for politicians, tenured teachers won’t last very long. :)


18 posted on 01/04/2022 1:18:23 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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This is the first step.

The next is to broaden “diversity” to include diversity of thought. Require them to hire gun toting and gun rights supporting, anti abortion, limited government, pro American, patriots in line with their share of the population.....because y’know, we need an educational establishment that looks like America. In effect this means “you cannot hire a Leftist for about 25 years until your faculty and administrators are balanced instead of being overwhelmingly Leftist”.

Hey, we’re all for “diversity” right?


19 posted on 01/04/2022 1:21:50 PM PST by FLT-bird
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And make the colleges be the guarantee for the guaranteed student loans, while you are at it.


20 posted on 01/04/2022 2:56:29 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (Socialism should more accurately be called Sociopathism)
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