Posted on 10/23/2021 9:35:23 PM PDT by Enterprise
The weapons mAster failed old Alex and the girl he killed. Sounds like a mystery worthy of Holmes Sherlylocks.
Good point, but what would you do? An honest question.
The video of the “rangemaster” explains a lot.
I must respectfully disagree. Any person who is handed a gun must do a final check of that gun. If that person is unable or unwilling to do the check, then that person must not touch the gun.
>> An image is forming in my mind of a drunken frat party instead of a motion picture being made here...
I wouldn’t be surprised if that image is the prevailing explanation.
A lot of lawyers’ kids will have their college tuition paid for by this incident.
She still have a baby fat face.
What would I do? Let’s say I was the producer, and crew members walked off because of their pay, or because they didn’t like the hours. Then it’s no big deal. Hire another crew, and keep on truckin’.
But if they walked out because of a serious safety concern, then it’s full stop until that concern is addressed.
I say that having worked in a steel mill for a number of years. A steel mill can be a dangerous place. It was always full stop when a safety concern was raised. It was the right thing to do.
We don’t know yet if she screwed up, but we sure know that Baldwin did. Whether she did doesn’t change the situation of Baldwin aiming and shooting, blank or not, right at the DP and director.
It was a union film (until it wasn't), so "industry standards" would have applied.
“Agreed. An actor cannot check the wespons before every scene the flow would just not be there”
The movie industry disagrees.
I don’t understand how anyone would ever be in front of a muzzle when a gun is fired, “prop” or not, or that any actor would think it was okay to point a gun at a person and pull the trigger, again “prop” or not.
Unless this gun misfired, Baldwin pulled the trigger while it was pointing at someone, this if true is absolutely insane…. It’s equally insane that the victims would willingly be in front or a gun being fired even if was a “prop”
I suspect a lot more is going to come out about this…
Either the most basics of safety were utterly ignored, or the gun misfired..
And that’s above and beyond the fact a real bullet was in the gun to begin with.
Personally I think, the safety on this set was beyond lacking from what has been reported so far….however I also know reporters are idiots so will be a long time before we know all that went on…
But like I said, short of a misfire, the fact a gun was fired pointed at someone shows to me that safety was beyond lax on this set.
Time will tell, but I expect the final investigation will find lots of safety violations on this set… above and beyond how a real bullet was in the gun.
If Baldwin pointed this gun at this woman and pulled the trigger, the he’s as dumb as he appears. Anyone who truly respected and had just the most basic understanding of firearms would never do that… equally the victims if they willingly places themselves downwind of the muzzle knowing it was going to be fired at them, then I have to question their judgements as well.
As to how a real bullet got in the gun, it could have been anything from carelessness to intentional sabotage…. However the fact this gun was pointed at a human and fired, that gives me huge concerns. Unless a misfire, that means the this was a conscious decision in which at least 2-3 adults all made terrible decisions.
Baldwin, the lady killed, and the director. None of them said, NOPE, not going to point a gun at someone and fire it?!? And 2 of them were having the gun pointed at them?!?
Prop or no, not a chance in hell I’m going to be in front of the muzzle of a gun that is being fired.
Time will tell, will be a long time before full accurate story comes out, but just like it was clear from the start Boeing lied to regulators to get the Max certified, it is equally clear that safety protocols on this set were not being folowed.
“I can’t really blame him, because it was supposed to be a prop gun. He had to rely on the weapons master to ensure the gun was safe.”
Production protocols and safe practice require him to check the gun and not fire it at a person. If anyone is near the line of fire they are also to check the gun.
He is definitely to be blamed.
Well wasn't Baldwin a producer on this film? He really is a sly sleight of hand manipulator isn't he?
Talking out of both sides of his mouth. One says I'm for you and the other (his actions) say I could give a -hit about you and your needs.
The ultimate manipulative narcissistic liar.
Other articles have reported that some of the actors borrowed the prop guns and used them for target shooting, which would of course involve live ammunition. This is, of course, a violation of safety protocols. It is easy to see what might have happened.
anyone tweeting that its not Alec Baldwin's fault will never be allowed anywhere near my range or my guns
Tim Pool
It takes literally 10 seconds.
There was a Columbo or Magnum PI episode of that exact nature.
Of course, in the real world they do no investigation on the famous actor/producer, they go after a scape goat armorer, a film industry spunz.
No excuse then.
Did they accept getting vaccinated? Good question, though. It seems like another shakedown money maneuver.
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