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The Truth About Breakthrough Infections
https://basedunderground.com ^ | OCTOBER 21, 2021 | by Dr. Joel S. Hirschhorn

Posted on 10/21/2021 10:22:37 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Verginius Rufus

Another valid question....

Do the mRNA shots cause the weakening of the immune system or do they see similar results with the J&J?

Everything we see from the people who have lied to us and failed at every turn is pumping the mRNA shots. Millions also received the J&J so where is that data?


21 posted on 10/21/2021 10:48:25 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: Red Badger

To my mind:
1) Breakthrough should be the infection of the otherwise “vaccinated”. This would include infection and spread of variants not handled by the “vaccine”. If Delta is now the dominant strain out there, and these “vaccines” do not retard its contagion, then I expect most vaccinated infections are breakthroughs. At some point, this becomes a meaningless appellation, as the vaccine is, obviously, worthless.

2) Attempting to “vaccinate” the immune-compromised is not even medicine. Colin Powell probably could not be inoculated against anything. The same goes for organ transplants on immunosuppressants and AIDS victims at a gay orgy. It tells more that this is being attempted than do the resulting illnesses and deaths.

Medicine in America is now completely run by the government and has ceased to be medicine.


22 posted on 10/21/2021 10:48:52 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Boogieman

“I wonder why you didn’t quote the very next sentence:

“Generally speaking, after about six months they become ineffective.””

Maybe cause it is not the very next sentence because it is not even in the report!


23 posted on 10/21/2021 10:49:53 AM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: Red Badger
Powell had Multiple Myeloma and was 84 years old. I'm surprised the MSM is giving Covid as much credit for his death as they are.

ML/NJ

24 posted on 10/21/2021 10:50:31 AM PDT by ml/nj ("If the Representatives of the People betray their Constituents ..." Federalist #28; READ IT!)
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To: TheConservator

I distrust everyone on this subject, but IF the vaccine had a protective effect as you say please explain the raw numbers in Israel.

The most vaccinated nation with an excellent healthcare system and they were far worse after the vaccines than before.

Honest and respectful question to you....


25 posted on 10/21/2021 10:50:55 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: volunbeer

Unfortunately you are right and the more I hear about it the more I am convinced that the whole thing is a subtle and indirect way to cull the public. In plain English meaning to reduce the population and it looks like they are well on their way. For many unsuspecting people it probably will be too late before they wake up.


26 posted on 10/21/2021 10:54:17 AM PDT by saintgermaine (Saintgermain the time traveler)
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To: ransomnote

Interesting post—when the mass vaxxing of school-children starts we should expect a bunch of “mysterious” and “unexplained” deaths of children in short order after they have gotten their second shot.

We will know soon enough...by the end of this year probably.


27 posted on 10/21/2021 10:55:38 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: TexasGator; LilFarmer

LilFarmer’S link is a horrible article.

“Although follow-up of the Pfizer-BioNTech trial demonstrated sustained vaccine
protection against infection (91%) (3), our results suggest vaccines are less effective in
preventing infections with the more recent Delta variant. “

They literally made this up, for example.


28 posted on 10/21/2021 10:57:12 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: cgbg
Or we could stop them BEFORE they kill the children.

Child deaths are 52% higher than the 5-year-average since they were offered the Covid-19 vaccine, after previously being 14% down according to ONS data (UK)

10/20/2021, 5:55:03 PM · by ransomnote · 
theexpose.uk ^ | OCTOBER 20, 2021 | The Expose

29 posted on 10/21/2021 10:58:21 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: volunbeer

Unfortunately you are right and the more I hear about it the more I am convinced that the whole thing is a subtle and indirect way to cull the public. In plain English meaning to reduce the population and it looks like they are well on their way. For many unsuspecting people it probably will be too late before they wake up.


30 posted on 10/21/2021 11:00:26 AM PDT by saintgermaine (Saintgermain the time traveler)
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To: ransomnote

The propaganda campaign is gearing up—millions of parents are going to fall for it—no way around that.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/white-house-details-plan-quickly-vaccinate-28m-children-age-5-11

“the White House is rolling out an ‘advertising’ campaign to convince parents and kids that the vaccine is safe and effective. According to the report, “the administration believes trusted messengers — educators, doctors, and community leaders — will be vital to encouraging vaccinations.”


31 posted on 10/21/2021 11:11:03 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Red Badger
Declining vaccine effectiveness

First of all, they aren't actually vaccines, but experimental gene therapies. Secondly, once it becomes apparent that Covid has been one big psy op, then one must question if the variants were actually created and then spread though the "vaccines" themselves. It's the simplest explanation because Big Pharma is making too much money from Covid to just let it fade away.
32 posted on 10/21/2021 11:11:24 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: cgbg

The propaganda campaign is gearing up—millions of parents are going to fall for it—no way around that.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/white-house-details-plan-quickly-vaccinate-28m-children-age-5-11

“the White House is rolling out an ‘advertising’ campaign to convince parents and kids that the vaccine is safe and effective. According to the report, “the administration believes trusted messengers — educators, doctors, and community leaders — will be vital to encouraging vaccinations.”
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We can refuse to let them kill our children.


33 posted on 10/21/2021 11:12:10 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Red Badger

I highlighted a few of the key statistics and findings. This article needs to be widespread.

The DOD study got access to the medical data for those people who were fully vaccinated. Of that group, 2.7 million got the Pfizer shot and 2.9 million got the Moderna one. Here are key findings:

There were 161,000 breakthrough cases.There were 33,000 hospitalizations.There were 10,400 intensive care unit admissions.There were 3,381 deaths for a death rate of 2.1%

As of October 12, CDC reported 7,178 breakthrough deaths, with 85% over 65. It no longer counts all breakthrough cases, just deaths and hospitalizations.

The worsening of health outcomes after vaccination has been interpreted as resulting from damage to the immune system caused by vaccines. This is referred to as Antibody Dependent Enhancement in the medical research literature. It refers to immune system weakening from vaccines.

the vaccinated account for 85-90% of all new hospitalizations and 95% of “severe” cases at the Herzog Medical Center in Jerusalem.

There have also been reports that very high fractions of hospital admission in the US are for fully vaccinated people. One whistle blower reported that where she worked that while the vaccination rate was less than 50% in the community, about 90% of hospital admissions had been fully vaccinated.

This is why many medical experts refer to the vaccinated as super spreaders.


34 posted on 10/21/2021 11:12:16 AM PDT by patriot torch
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To: ransomnote
We can refuse to let them kill our children.

There is no "we"--maybe some states and some school districts and some parents--but millions of children are going to become medical experiments.
35 posted on 10/21/2021 11:13:57 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: patriot torch
..the vaccinated as super spreaders.

Maybe that's The Plan.............................

36 posted on 10/21/2021 11:15:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: glennaro

Ka ching!


37 posted on 10/21/2021 11:15:47 AM PDT by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: volunbeer

+++ BTTT


38 posted on 10/21/2021 11:18:28 AM PDT by Track9 (Agamemnon came home to a HRC type party. )
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To: cgbg

It’s going to be a Norman Rockwell PsyOp with kindly doctors and nurses, lollipops, and teddy bears


39 posted on 10/21/2021 11:18:51 AM PDT by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: volunbeer

I am not really qualified to offer any positive opinions. I am only pointing out the obvious fallacies in this particular author’s reasoning.


40 posted on 10/21/2021 11:19:39 AM PDT by TheConservator (Beware the tyranny of the woke mob. There has never been a greater threat to liberty.)
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