Posted on 10/21/2021 10:22:37 AM PDT by Red Badger
“It is now recognized that their effectiveness quickly diminishes over time.”
“Moderna’s vaccine was 93 percent effective at reducing the short-term risk of COVID-19 hospitalization and remained 92 percent effective after 120 days.”
Denoting these infections “breakthrough” at this point is nonsense. It appears completely evident that these vaccines do nothing to prevent the vaccinated from getting COVID, or dying of it as well. There’s nothing to “break through”.
And this idiotic argument going around that “You won’t get as sick if you’re vaccinated” is fallacy. Most people who get COVID don’t get that sick. Some even have to be told they have it.
A recent study in medRxiv showed that all three vaccines showed waning effectiveness after six months - Johnson & Johnson dropped from 88% to 3%, Pfizer dropped from 91% to 50%, and Moderna from 92% to 64%
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.13.21264966v1
“This corresponds to the five months since the onset of the mass vaccination program; a period when vaccines lose their effectiveness.”
they’re not really vaccines if they only last 5 months.
Nor do I think this has been established that the “breakthrough” cases are due to loss of effectiveness.
“As time goes on, more people lose protection from vaccines causing more breakthrough infections.”
Same comment. This is an assumption. I don’t think it’s been established this is the basis for “breakthrough” (I hate that term) cases.
The data is clear.
We will not and can not vaccinate our way out of Covid.
The vaccine not only fails to prevent infection and negative outcomes, it does not prevent the vaccinated from spreading it.
The vaccine is responsible for the new strains that are vaccine resistant. There will more variants.
Pfizer, Moderna, and others are getting rich off of a failed plan. Our NIH, FDA, CDC, the WHO, and other health institutions are hopelessly corrupted.
Our President and political leaders do not have a clue. Our media is hopelessly corrupted and millions take their health advice from Don Lemon, Joy Reid, and the editorial board of the NYT.
Therapeutics and prophylaxis with safe drugs that are cheap and plentiful is the only answer. Early treatment of a person upon onset of symptoms is the key to ending this, but it is time we all admit the truth.
FACT - HCQ/IVM are more efficacious than the vaccines. At this point, nutritional supplements like vitamin D and Zinc might be better than the vaccine. Look at the numbers yourself.... just the raw numbers. Draw your own conclusions.
Very powerful forces do not want the pandemic to end. I wish I could think of an alternative explanation, but I can’t.
This is deliberate.
Thanks.
Agree with you completely.
From your link:
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Although follow-up of the Pfizer-BioNTech trial demonstrated sustained vaccine
protection against infection (91%) (3), our results suggest vaccines are less effective in
preventing infections with the more recent Delta variant. “
“Breakthrough infection” is “vaccine failure” with a press agent!
Exactly spot on!
And, not to mention the UNDERREPORTED adverse effects/deaths caused by these very risky shots.
How many unvaccinated people who have recovered from COVID have caught the dreaded virus a second time. Last number I remember was around 200 worldwide. Seems like natural immunity is the BOMB!
Anecdotally, I know a lot of people who got the J&J. I don’t know any in that group who got the Delta variant. I know there have been breakthrough cases with the J&J, but not among the large pool of vaccinated that I know.
On the flip side, I know a bunch of people who had the mRNA vaccines who contracted the Delta variant and one who died.
I no longer have any faith in the vaccines based on simple statistical analysis. They do not work as advertised. With that said, the J&J is different than the others. J&J did not pay off Fauci and crew like Moderna and Pfizer so they have not gotten the good press as the FDA suspended them for the same issues the mRNA vaccines are having.
I don’t know what is accurate or not accurate about numbers they put out. You can’t trust them. Notice that instead of recommending another J&J shot that Fauci is pushing people with the J&J to get an mRNA booster? Isn’t that curious?
I wonder why you didn’t quote the very next sentence:
“Generally speaking, after about six months they become ineffective.”
Maybe because it shows your 120 day cutoff is not chosen arbitrarily???
Ditto.
Do other vaccines (such as the normal flu vaccine) cause any weakening of the immune system, or is it only the Covid vaccine that does this?
By eyeballing the chart, I came up with 9,370 deaths in the 14-day period, far more than the officially-reported number. .
This article is full of logical fallacy.
To determine the effect of the vaccines, you would need to compare rates of infection, hospitalization, and death against the rates found in a similar group of over 65 people who have not been vaccinated. Then you might argue that any increase in rates is due to the vaccine. Until you have done that, there is no grounds for basing any argument on this data set.
Also, the article misleadingly claims a “death rate” of 2.1%. 2.1% of this cohort has not died from the vaccine. 2.1% of the small subset of this cohort who got infected with virus died.
That may seem large as an absolute number, but if I recall correctly, the death rate among elderly wholly unvaccinated people in that age group is much higher. If so, that would suggest the vaccines have in fact had a protective effect.
Easily refutable articles like this one do nothing to aid the cause.
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