Posted on 10/10/2021 5:33:12 AM PDT by Loud Mime
In a meeting with my doctor on Friday she told me that I had severe bone loss in my left arm because of a problem with my parathyroid.
She recommended surgery on my parathyroid, telling me that it was a step by step process.
I must give her an answer soon.
Does anybody have any experience in this issue? Any advice to tender?
Thanks for your help. Freepers are the greatest!
As with any surgery, get a second opinion. You may end up with the old joke, ‘you’re ugly too’ response, but never accept the first answer without doing more research. Good luck.
Hands down, borax. Go to earthclinic.com and look up the remedy of borax and read up. Lots of info on the parathyroid and osteo
If you are searching for more information to make a decision, get a second opinion from another doctor who specializes in this area.
Hyperparathyroidism causes osteoporosis.
See another Dr. for a second opinion before getting surgery.
https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/borax.html
https://ted.earthclinic.com/cures/thyroid3.html
read through both of these links. this is where you’ll be able to gather the information to HEAL yourself, as opposed to mainstream medicine (the same as mainstream media; completely controlled by satan). Do not have your parathyroid removed.
Get on a good mineral regimen of iodine, selenium, magnesium, borax and a good salt.
Without seeing your data, such as lab results, bone density and other ancillary labs it’s difficult to make a definite recommendation regarding your need for surgery. I would order a sestimibi parathyroid scan and localize the location of the problem as there are 4 parathyroid glands. Most hyperparathyroid issues are caused by a benign tumor in one of the parathyroid glands (located behind the thyroid gland in the neck) but a few are due to overactivity of more than one of the glands. A good endocrine surgeon should be sought for an opinion generally located at a referral medical center as most general surgeons do not do this procedure on a regular basis. There are a few potential complications to be considered but thankfully these are rarely encountered and generally easily managed. The phrase “stones, bones, moans, and groans” is used to describe the symptoms of this disease... Kidney stones can occur due to elevated kidney excretion of the calcium in the urine, body and joint aches can occur, psychiatric symptoms may be seen, and as you have noted osteoporosis is a result of the leaching of the calcium from the bone due to the elevated hormone levels. Sorry for the long discussion, but you should see a endocrine surgical specialist if in fact you do have this medical condition. Good luck - you should do well !!
If they have diagnosed you correctly, get the surgery. I used to work in Nuclear Medicine in a previous professional life, and you may have had a test I used to perform a test that located the four little glands on the thyroid for patient with Hyperparathyroidism (you may have had one already) and surgery is the only way to handle it, IIRC.
And you want to handle it. Get the surgery. It is generally low risk day surgery, and unless there have been medication improvements since then, medication isn’t all that great.
So, from my experience, I would say get the surgery and get it over with and you will be good.
I am not a physician, and I have been out of the imaging end of things for decades so treatment options may have changed, but I believe the surgery is regarded as a cure.
I have worked for a couple of endocrinologists and haven’t heard about the parathyroid causing localized bone loss like that - that doesn’t mean your doctor was wrong. Your thyroid can cause lots of strange problems and osteoporosis is one of them.
I assume you’re already taking vitamins and so forth - esp calcium and other minerals so I won’t lecture about that, but agree with others here who say a second opinion might help you get more information. A reasonable doctor will tell you to go ahead with that - if the doctor is trying to rush you into a decision that’s a bad sign.
Hello Mime. I had hyperthyroid and toxic goiter syndrome for almost a decade. Diagnosed as Graves Disease my immune system crashed, I had severe osteoporosis, tachycardia, and a dozen other issues. I learned a lot about thyroid disease in those 10 years - especially since everything about my condition was hinkey from the beginning - meaning my TSH & TS3 levels were off the charts, a Cambridge endocrinologist put me on the maximum dose of Methimazole and then doubled it, five years in they nuked my thyroid and it didn’t die. It’s a very long story (10 years), they told me I had a year to live in 2002. In 2010, everything went back to (almost) normal (I still take synthroid) - needless to say, it wasn’t Graves, but that’s not the point. My osteoporosis reversed itself and I added considerable bone mass (so much that they redid the tests thinking a decimal point had been misplaced).
The bottom line is, osteoporosis can be reversed (or at least suppressed) and if a good endocrinologist and/or surgeon wants to remove the parathyroid glands (which are robbing your bones of calcium) I would proceed.
They could never do any surgery on me due to the state of my immune system (I couldn’t even have my teeth cleaned). Once your thyroid starts trying to kill you, things can go bad in dozens of different ways (I endured most of them) and it can happen overnight. Don’t delay - get a second opinion, but don’t avoid treatment - things can and will get worse. The surgery for parathyroid glands is an easy lift compared to what will happen if you opt out. That’s just my 2¢ and ymmv, but, I wouldn’t wait if I were you.
My sister had to have one of her parathyroids Removed A few years ago. It was not a hard surgery. I think you have 2-3 on each side. They do some test to determine which one or ones have gone bad. They are not always precise so they aren’t 100% sure they got the correct one until they take it out and look at it. In her case they got the right one. think she was not allowed to talk the first day after surgery. It had something to do with her calcium level because of her Lupus.
Why do you have to give an answer soon, and how soon is soon?Learn about the condition, get second opinion, then answer.
Parathyroid hormone controls the calcium blood levels. It can either have calcium go into bones or out as needed.
There are two of them. Sometimes they get a growth on them that screws them up and you can either have too much calcium going in or out of bones. Also, the brain is involved.
Could Proton therapy be an alternative?
Proton Pump Inhibitors (Prilosec, Prevacid and others) are associated with Hyperparathyroidism. These are taken for acid reflux. Just saying.
Get your vitamin D levels checked too. Malabsorption of nutrients in the gut can cause many of these problems. My boss recently had surgery on his parathyroid. He was getting forgetful too. Affects kidney function too.
i can’t speak to your need for parathyroid surgery, but i can tell you that parathyroid hormone is critical to the function of Vitamin D, namely that the form of Vitamin D that one consumes is D3, which is converted to D2 in the liver, but the active ,D1, is converted from D2 under control of parathyroid hormone, so if you lack parathyroid hormone, little or no D1 gets produced ... so, regardless of surgery, IF you end up with little or no parathyroid hormone, you’ll have to take prescription D1 AND be very careful with the dose, because too much D1 can be toxic ...
you might want to quiz your doc about this situation and see what he says ...
one other thing that would be helpful at some point is daily 360 micrograms of Vitamin K2 MK-7 form, which bona fide peer-reviewed published research has shown that it is essential for the balance of calcium between the bones and tissues, namely MK-7 keeps calcium in the bones and out of the tissues ...
good luck ...
Sounds like you also need clarification that one is causing the other, but as to the removal of a parathyroid;
I had one taken out 20 years ago. After the the first few days everything was just fine.
The diagnosis came because I was so fatigued.
Let us know how it all goes. Prayers for you and your doctors.
Parathyroid regulates calcium and phosphate levels by activating vitamin D. If you have too much parathyroid (and therefore too much calcium), surgery to remove parts of the parathyroid might reduce parathyroid hormone secretion. If you have low parathyroid (and therefore too little calcium) then I do not understand how surgery would help. I am not a doctor though. I am very skeptical about surgeons prescribing surgery. (“If the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.”) I think COVID has taught us that mainstream medicine is corrupt and not trustworthy — and that you have to do your own research to find the best treatments.
In Japan, osteoporosis is treated with high dose vitamin K2 (45mg per day). Vitamin K2 works with vitamin D to distribute calcium in the body. People typically have enough calcium, but it is sometimes distributed poorly so that it migrates from the bones and teeth to undesired locations such as the arteries (a disease state called arteriosclerosis). Arteriosclerosis is successfully treated with high-dose vitamin D and K2.
I do not know the relationship between parathyroid and vitamin K2, but they seem to have overlapping functions. If I were in your situation, I would get on 10,000 to 20,000 per day of vitamin D3 plus 45mg per day of K2. Then I would monitor parathyroid and calcium levels for several months to a year before considering surgery. I would likely also research and follow the other advice being offered here. I would always get a second and third opinion before surgery, especially if the first opinion is not passing the “smell test.”
The website below offers a good brand of very high dose K2. It is $45 per month, and there is a really good coupon somewhere on the web for this website.
Lifeextension.com also offers various versions of high-dose K2 and has info on how it works.
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