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World War III And IV? Why A U.S.-China War Might Have A Sequel
19FortyFive ^ | 10/7/2021 | Robert Farley

Posted on 10/07/2021 5:58:03 AM PDT by Onthebrink

Competition between the United States and China might look less like a single sharp, decisive conflict between Washington and Beijing, and more like a series of militarized conflicts in a broader context of trade and cooperation. This would represent more of an 18th-century appreciation of international conflict, seeing no wars as particularly decisive in themselves, but rather each as a step to improving a state’s position for the next conflict. As Paul von Hindenburg said of annexing the Baltic States into the German Empire during World War I, “I need them for the manoeuvring of my left wing in the next war.”

The idea that long-term great power competition must end in a single decisive conflict is recent, and wrong.

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TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; china; crapblog; military; poswebsite; usmilitary; war

1 posted on 10/07/2021 5:58:04 AM PDT by Onthebrink
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To: Onthebrink

Decent article. Though it fails to mention that we’ve already fought a major ground war with China that was a horrible mauling for them. We may have forgotten, but the Chinese certainly have not.


2 posted on 10/07/2021 6:11:15 AM PDT by Vikon99 (-Yeah, I make very complex things.)
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To: Onthebrink

China has been at war with us for a while now.

Remember the tariff war? How they deny American goods to sell in China without a huge tariff and quotas? And how Pres. Trump punched back? Then, China released a biological weapon on the world and US in Covid-19? And now, they hack and attack our various computer networks, and set up so-called shipping shortages and other directed sabotage.

We need to wake up to what war means in the modern, 21st century—because we’re already in it.


3 posted on 10/07/2021 6:15:24 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: Vikon99
It (Korea) may have been a horrible mauling for them, but it ended in a stalemate.

The Chinese leadership did not care about the tremendous cost in their soldiers lives. The veterans of that war were not even allowed back into mainstream Chinese society.

The Chinese, culturally, have never valued soldiers. They are regarded as the least valuable members of society.

It is a serious weakness in their society, which we should be studying hard to exploit.

They have a 10th century vision of a military.

A major strength of the West has been its strong military tradition and value of soldiers as well as generals.

4 posted on 10/07/2021 6:19:03 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: Onthebrink

The US is not going to war with China under any foreseeable circumstances.


5 posted on 10/07/2021 6:21:21 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The nation cannot be saved until the GOP is destroyed)
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To: marktwain

my prediction is nearly all future major wars will be almost exclusively fought by robots and drones.


6 posted on 10/07/2021 6:22:08 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Jim Noble

Germans bomb Pearl Harbor.

Japanese take France.

South Korea pushed North.

Kuwait raids Irag for oil.


7 posted on 10/07/2021 6:23:59 AM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: Onthebrink

We’ll always be at war with EastAsia...


8 posted on 10/07/2021 6:28:59 AM PDT by William of Barsoom (In Omnia, Paratus)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
my prediction is nearly all future major wars will be almost exclusively fought by robots and drones.

Drones and robots are becoming more and more important.

We are far from the point where they will be the vast majority of combatants/force wielders.

They are another sort of weapon, which will be wielded by smaller numbers of people in the near future.

I believe you are correct in a sense; but the winner of a major robot/drone war will eventually hold such a significant tactical/strategic advantage, they will be able to exert control over the whole world.

To do so, they need only control the ultimate high ground: near earth orbit and the access to space.

We had that in our hands. The treasonous State Department gave it away to futher their goal of a one-world government. We could still re-acquire it, but the will has been lacking.

President Trump paved the way to do it with the Space Force.

9 posted on 10/07/2021 6:36:16 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: Onthebrink

China is not going to attack the US. Why wage a very expensive risky war when you simply can buy the US Political/Media class.

I have to wonder which amuses the Chicoms more. That they can buy the US Political/Media class or that the price is so low.


10 posted on 10/07/2021 6:42:34 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: marktwain

Victor Davis Hanson’s landmark work Carnage and Culture speaks to some of those issues, especially that last line.


11 posted on 10/07/2021 6:52:34 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Onthebrink

WW IV will be fought w sticks and stones. There will be no infrastructure or any sense of civility left. Considering 6 billion will perish due to famine from the nuclear winter, those surviving will be start over again.


12 posted on 10/07/2021 7:12:14 AM PDT by DownInFlames (G)
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To: Alas Babylon!

...Then, China released a biological weapon on the world and US in Covid-19?...


I’m glad someone else isn’t afraid to say it. it is all too obvious to me.


13 posted on 10/07/2021 8:40:58 AM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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To: DownInFlames
Considering 6 billion will perish due to famine from the nuclear winter, those surviving will be start over again.

Disagree.

Six billion killed means the survivors will have a golden age. The scientific and engineering knowledge will not perish, nor will most infrastucture.

There would be massive resources left for the survivors.

Not to mention the whole idea of a "nuclear winter" is nonsense, a precursor to the "climate change" hysteria.

14 posted on 10/07/2021 8:59:34 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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