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To: SeekAndFind
"Among vaccinated individuals, a COVID variant virus is not recognized by the specialized antibodies provided by the vaccine, and the natural antibodies have been programmed to stand down."

I'm not familiar with this phenomenon, or why the immune system would react in such an unhelpful way. If someone has a link to an article where it has happened with viruses other than Covid, I'd be interested in reading it.

10 posted on 10/03/2021 8:31:21 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: rightwingcrazy

Antibodies can help a virus. Suppose you encourage the creation of an antibody that helps the body fight a virus. That antibody might make it easier for a different virus to infect.


12 posted on 10/03/2021 8:36:11 PM PDT by TTFX ( )
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To: rightwingcrazy

It’s called ADE...antibody dependent enhancement.

Actual docs and virologists have been warning about it, with these shots, for MONTHS (Dr Lee Merritt since late last year).

Multiple threads, on FR, about it.

Here is one study....

...One potential hurdle for antibody-based vaccines and therapeutics is the risk of exacerbating COVID-19 severity via antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). ADE can increase the severity of multiple viral infections, including other respiratory viruses such as respiratory syncytial virus (RSV)9,10 and measles11,12.

ADE in respiratory infections is included in a broader category named enhanced respiratory disease (ERD), which also includes non-antibody-based mechanisms such as cytokine cascades and cell-mediated immunopathology (Box 1).

ADE caused by enhanced viral replication has been observed for other viruses that infect macrophages, including dengue virus13,14 and feline infectious peritonitis virus (FIPV)15.

Furthermore, ADE and ERD has been reported for SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV both in vitro and in vivo. The extent to which ADE contributes to COVID-19 immunopathology is being actively investigated....

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-020-00789-5


15 posted on 10/03/2021 8:39:27 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 )
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To: rightwingcrazy

I doubt that the vaccine has “programmed” anything. The natural immune response of the body had not had to develop as the spike protein has somewhat taken it’s place.

The vaccinated were dying at a 1.02% rate (of vaxed cases) while the unvaxed it was 0.28%. So about 3.5 times greater. However, people with poor health may have been more interested in getting the vaccine than healthy people. It would be interesting to know what other health problems the deceased had.

That said - early studies with the “original” SARS “1” vaccines had the test animals getting the wild variants and many (all?) of them dying.


20 posted on 10/03/2021 8:43:59 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: rightwingcrazy

i believe Bossche and others have been warning about potential antibody dependent enhancement. this may be what they are talking about.

there have been problems with ADE in previous mRNA vaccine studies.


61 posted on 10/03/2021 11:08:54 PM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: rightwingcrazy

There is no such phenomena. The closest thing I can imagine to these weird statements is passive immunity.


72 posted on 10/04/2021 1:01:07 AM PDT by MarMema
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