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1 posted on 09/21/2021 11:33:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

They obviously don’t want the hoi-polloi to be rubbing elbows with their own.......................


2 posted on 09/21/2021 11:40:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: SeekAndFind

How about a CliffsNotes Version vs a cut and paste mishmash of info the avg slob doesnt understand.


3 posted on 09/21/2021 11:42:29 AM PDT by Bell Bouy II
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To: SeekAndFind

BKMRK.


4 posted on 09/21/2021 11:42:33 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: SeekAndFind
To prevent self-dealing, under current law prohibited transaction rules, an IRA owner cannot invest his or her IRA assets in a corporation, partnership, trust, or estate in which he or she has a 50 percent or greater interest.

Am I misreading this or are they smoking something? The statement about the current state of the law, not the change. How does putting oneself in the same position as the shareholders introduce the risk of self-dealing if you're already supposed to be acting in the interests of the shareholders? Wouldn't it REDUCE that risk? Aruh?

And what about self-directed IRAs that hold rental real estate for example? That's legal, and in that case, you're still both management and investor (albeit typically the sole investor).

10 posted on 09/21/2021 11:47:57 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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It’s government overreach without question but I am curious how many IRAs participate in private placements?


11 posted on 09/21/2021 11:48:47 AM PDT by Jonny7797
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To: SeekAndFind

I have always opposed IRA’s with their resultant penalties for early withdrawal and the other problems associated therein.

Save or don’t save. There should be no tax advantage or penalty.


14 posted on 09/21/2021 12:03:36 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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To: SeekAndFind

Keeping the proletariat down and under control


16 posted on 09/21/2021 12:24:26 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Politicians are not born, they are excreted. Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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My take on this is that the new laws are designed to prevent people from investing their tax advantaged IRA assets in speculative unregulated assets (like bitcoin?) or assets where they are otherwise financially liable. The intent seems to be to lower the risk of IRA investments so they are available at retirement and not coupled with other personal debt obligations that apply to business owners and could be confiscated with a bankruptcy or reorganization.

This seems like prudent diversification of long term tax advantaged assets that any intelligent investor would already be doing. The fact that people need a law to get them to do the right thing is just an admission that a lot of people are financially crazy.


18 posted on 09/21/2021 12:36:27 PM PDT by Dave Wright
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To: SeekAndFind

BFL


19 posted on 09/21/2021 12:41:23 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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They hate it when the normal people work hard and try to save money for their “golden” years so as not to be a burden to anyone. They want that money. Do not doubt this.

But the ruling elite gets to keep it all, live high off the hog, and to hate and scorn the common herd.


21 posted on 09/21/2021 12:44:33 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Dethrone the ruling elite. Redistribute their wealth. Take away their power. Annul their privileges.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I will have to definitely look into this. I have a self-directed IRA.


22 posted on 09/21/2021 1:15:35 PM PDT by sauropod (Bidet was no prize before he put the “d” in “dementia.” - Schlichter)
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Better read this.

When is that appt w/ Mandy?


23 posted on 09/21/2021 1:16:25 PM PDT by sauropod (Bidet was no prize before he put the “d” in “dementia.” - Schlichter)
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To: SeekAndFind

Many IRAs are just accounts in a bank.

I wasn’t aware that one could have them hold anything other than ‘money’/greenbacks.

It’s just lately that I’ve seen ads for converting the IRA into holding gold.

Maybe that’s what the Dems are after.


25 posted on 09/21/2021 1:36:42 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.) )
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m no financial whiz and ICBW, but I see this as something very sinister.
If “more speculative” investments bring higher returns and these investments are being banned, then permitted investments will garner lower returns. That being the case, I see the gov’t. stepping in to take over these accounts using the excuse that it (the govt) can do a better job with ROE than non-govt. entities. This will be especially true should the stock market go markedly south.

Congress has been eyeing private retirement accounts and pension funds for decades. It’s a huge pile of money NOT under their control and they WANT THAT CONTROL!!


32 posted on 09/21/2021 6:35:06 PM PDT by Roccus (Prima di ogni altra cosa, siati armati!)
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