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One reason for the push for COVID vaccination may be to eliminate a possible control group
American Thinker.com ^ | September 17, 2021 | Peter Surkiss

Posted on 09/17/2021 2:47:25 AM PDT by Kaslin

There are a number of reasons to explain the intense push from the Biden administration and the government medical bureaucracy to get people to take the COVID vaccine. From a wide search of the information available, I find it hard to believe that the actual health of people is one of the reasons.

For example, why demand people with natural immunity get vaccinated? And why insist on vaccinating children when their risk of serious effects from the virus is minuscule? It make no scientific sense especially when the vaccine itself can possibly cause serious health issues for the young.

This brings up one of the less talked about reasons behind the vaccination mania. It's to eliminate a possible control group of non-vaccinated people to which the vaccinated can be compared. Let me explain.

From the highest levels of the government to the public health authorities like the WHO, FDA, and CDC, to professional medical groups (American Medical Association, etc.) to the corporate media, the vaccines have been heralded as safe and effective. Already, the health authorities and the medical establishment have had their reputations sullied with their wrong-headed advice on stopping the virus via lockdowns, mask-wearing, and social distancing. And the number of deaths from the Wuhan virus did not come close to matching their early projections even when the actual COVID deaths were greatly inflated.

Now it's down to the vaccines. They already have egg on their faces due to their earlier pronouncements. Now they're desperate that people never find out about the possible damage these inadequately tested vaccines may be inflicting on humanity.

There are already clues that the vaccines are causing many near-immediate adverse effects. Credible scientists, immunologists, and doctors are also saying even more vaccine damage could surface down the road.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Health/Medicine; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: americannonthinker; antivaxxcult; dumbingdownfr
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To: Jane Long

“Many of us have been saying this for MONTHS!!“
Alex Berenson - whose article you link to in your previous post - has been saying for 18 months that Covid is not actually deadly, it’s just the flu
https://www.foxnews.com/media/alex-berenson-worldwide-coronavirus-bad-flu-year
So why do you and he now care about whether vaccines work against this harmless virus?
And another reason to believe the vaccines are working is that people who already had Covid are less likely to take the vacccine. So the ratio of cases and deaths for vaccinated versus unvaccinated should go up since the vaccinated are less likely to have more protection than the previously infected. They are more likely to have more protection when compared to those who are unvaccinated AND have NO natural immunity.


21 posted on 09/17/2021 5:34:50 AM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weather)
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To: Flick Lives

EVERYTHING our so-called medical “experts” recommended doing was the EXACT OPPOSITE of what should’ve been done, for this China virus PlanDEMIc. 😡😢

They purposely exacerbated the problem.


22 posted on 09/17/2021 5:35:18 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation.)
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To: Kaslin

Who are you calling Peter? Surely not me.


No, not you. I don’t even call you Shirley.

Peter Surkiss ....the author of this article YOU posted.

🙃


23 posted on 09/17/2021 5:39:26 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation.)
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To: Does so

“The Tuskegee Airmen”


Not sure I’m following your metaphor there.

Did you really mean Tuskegee “Airmen”?

Or are you confusing them with another Tuskegee event which shall forever live in infamy?


24 posted on 09/17/2021 6:27:00 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Travis McGee

25 posted on 09/17/2021 6:46:19 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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To: trebb
Say what? Having 140 million un-jabbed to bump against 220 million jabbed folks certainly has utility as a control group. They are everywhere the jabbed are.

I repeat: A "control group" is worthless if not randomized - across as many salient parameters as possible. Sheer numbers are not enough.

If the unvaccinated are significantly older, on average, or more rural, or darker complexioned, or more religious, this would skew results.

Then sophisticated statistical techniques would have to be applied in order to nonetheless derive worthwhile results.

Regards,

26 posted on 09/17/2021 7:05:13 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: DuncanWaring; Does so
Or are you confusing them with another Tuskegee event which shall forever live in infamy?

He is undoubtedly referencing a certain executive office-holder who did so at a televised press conference.

Regards,

27 posted on 09/17/2021 7:07:00 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Travis McGee; Lazamataz
The Media disappeared Hunter's laptop.

This 10% will be easier to disappear.

28 posted on 09/17/2021 7:27:17 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: alexander_busek

Aha!

That would make sense.


29 posted on 09/17/2021 8:04:14 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Salamander

What would be the antithesis of “a canary in a coal mine”?

A flock of dead canaries everywhere.

The “vaccine” is doing exactly what the overlords want it to do. Thinning the herd.


30 posted on 09/17/2021 8:13:00 AM PDT by ro_dreaming ("We seem to have gone from 'We the people' to 'Me, the president' in a scant 8 months." - Me)
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To: bramps
They aren't going to put a microchip in a vaccine. That is silly.

They have been pretty clear all along that they are going to simply make a chip that you will be required to accept....

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/last-pandemic-science-military-60-minutes-2021-04-11/

Dr. Hepburn showed us a few current projects, some sound like they're from an episode of "Star Trek." Consider a ship like the USS Theodore Roosevelt -- hobbled last year when 1,271 crew members tested positive for the coronavirus. What if everyone on board had their health monitored with this subdermal implant, now in late-stage testing. It's not some dreaded government microchip to track your every move, but a tissue-like gel engineered to continuously test your blood.

Dr. Matt Hepburn: It's a sensor.

Bill Whitaker: This tiny green thing in there?

Dr. Matt Hepburn: That tiny green thing in there, you put it underneath your skin and what that tells you is that there are chemical reactions going on inside the body and that signal means you are going to have symptoms tomorrow.

The scary thing is that I have posed this scenario to several vaxxers who only took it for social acceptance, easy of travel, etc... and ALL of them said that if taking the chip would allow them to do things then they would take it.

We are doomed.

31 posted on 09/17/2021 8:38:22 AM PDT by nitzy
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To: Lazamataz

What, in your opinion , is the reason for the amazingly overreaching zealous push to get everyone vaccinated?


32 posted on 09/17/2021 8:43:38 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Candor7

“If you cannot get a physician’s prescription, you can order it here:( Use Pay Pal)”

Is a prescription required?


33 posted on 09/17/2021 8:45:54 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Kaslin
'They' always behave this way, which means we are getting closer to the truth.

.

How the Nazis Tried to Cover Up Their Crimes at Auschwitz,

"In the winter of 1945, the Nazis tried to destroy the evidence of the Holocaust."

34 posted on 09/17/2021 8:46:43 AM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Travis McGee

35 posted on 09/17/2021 8:55:18 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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To: alexander_busek

Scientifically speaking you are correct.
However think of it more as a comparison group rather than a control group. And for the purposes of the left there really is no difference because if a bunch of non-vaccinated people don’t develop the problems that the vaxxed ones do it’s going to look bad.

Remember with the left everything is optics.


36 posted on 09/17/2021 9:03:37 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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To: Candor7

Great info you shared! Saving... THANK YOU


37 posted on 09/17/2021 9:06:26 AM PDT by Mama4Life ("Privacy, a thing a of the past.")
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To: Kaslin

Wouldn’t “trying to eliminate control group” be a criminal act?


38 posted on 09/17/2021 9:10:39 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( PRAY FOR OUR NATION. I will never b.e a peaceful slave in a new socialist America.)
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To: Candor7

mark


39 posted on 09/17/2021 9:15:20 AM PDT by Jaded (Pope Francis? Definitely NOT a fan... miss the last guy )
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To: Kaslin

I’ve been saying this from the beginning. When I mentioned to my primary care doc that I considered myself part of the control group that they were trying so desperately to eliminate, that seemed to rankle him the most. I’m recently recovered from covid so have no need for the vaccine anyway. And I am currently looking for a new primary care doctor, since I now have zero respect for my current one.


40 posted on 09/17/2021 9:35:02 AM PDT by jimwatx
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