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To: ProgressingAmerica

So let get something clear

Is the issue Slavery

Or Race

Because slave and Slavery came in all colors
There were white slaves

And Slavery was worldwide for thousands of years


4 posted on 09/12/2021 11:17:06 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: tophat9000

Indeed, and the slavery trade was in the Caribbean long before the supposedly unique 1619 date subscribed for africans only, in the US Jamestown colony. Before 1619 the majority of non-owner colonists were indentured servants who had no rights at all and could and did have their contracts extended by the owners. This form of slavery had devastating effect on the people (even little children without parents) cleaned off the streets of London.

It well preceded the african trade in which tribal chiefs sold their conquered enemies and undesirable in their own tribe to Arab traders as middlemen to the later slave ships. The african trade went first to places in S. America and was conducted by Portugese and Spanish- again many years before Jamestown. Irish were sentenced to “transport” to the colonies (See: Oglethorpe in GA) and to the sugar cane islands (Barbados and others) to cut cane in 110 degree heat and tropical sun that killed them by burning. They never were intended to survive as part of their sentence, and many were cleared off their tenant land in Ireland to die in the Caribbean.


7 posted on 09/12/2021 1:30:09 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: tophat9000

The issue really is neither in that context as presented - both are merely useful items for progressives to achieve their purpose.

The issue is that progressives have been erasing American history for more than a century and now have a free hand to remake it any way they want now that all of it is pretty much gone.

Audiobooks such as these would be particularly useful tools in the hands of homeschoolers, which is pretty much the only place left where there is a chance of any kind that American greatness will be taught.

These tools don’t yet exist though. Ok, so let’s build them.


8 posted on 09/12/2021 1:42:41 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (Public meetings are superior to newspapers)
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To: tophat9000

I once tried to discuss the very idea that there were black and white indentured servants.
“ In 1619 the first black Africans came to Virginia. With no slave laws in place, they were initially treated as indentured servants, and given the same opportunities for freedom dues as whites”. Notes from John Rolfe
I was called a liar. The Truth doesn’t serve their purpose.


10 posted on 09/12/2021 6:44:01 PM PDT by griswold3 (When chaos serves the State, the State will encourage chaos)
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