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Scientists: Fully vaccinated carry 251 times the Covid viral load as unvaccinated
World Tribune ^ | August 26, 2021 | World Tribune Staff

Posted on 08/27/2021 3:46:12 AM PDT by iontheball

Scientists have discovered that fully vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the viral load of Covid in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.

The researchers, who detailed their findings in a paper by the prestigious Oxford University Clinical Research Group published Aug. 10 in The Lancet, found that while the jab moderates symptoms of infection, it also allows vaccinated individuals to carry unusually high viral loads without becoming ill at first, potentially transforming them into pre-symptomatic superspreaders.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: covid; covid1984; spreaders
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To: fr_freak

One laboratory experiment in Wuhan became hundreds of millions of human experiments.


81 posted on 08/27/2021 8:50:40 AM PDT by Arcadian Empire
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To: LibertyOh

There may be misinformation on both sides of this issue, but the level of that from the pro-vaccine would almost be laughable if so many didn’t feel justified in locking up those who are “anti-vax”, an attitude becoming very common on the pro-vaccine side.
Then the label of being anti-vax itself is a lie, having been in the military I had received a great many vaccines, but for the most part not those developed in a hurry under a great deal of false information.
A vaccine to deal with a deadly disease might be justified, but the deadliness of Covid has been vastly overstated. At age 57, by CDC’s own statistical analysis my survival rate is 99.5% and I have to be tested to know I have it? (my reaction to that is of course “Are you serious?”, and yes the pro-vax side is).
In my circle of people nobody debates this issue anymore with me, they either hang up (my father) or allow governmental agencies to do their work for them. I keep hitting them with logic and not dealing with emotion.
Then there is the whole labeling it a vaccine, which it is not, but people probably weren’t going to line up to get a “Gene Therapy” Most were not informed of just exactly what these shots were and by far the most part were convinced that it was the solution to end the “Pandemic”. Totally ignoring the fact how do you create a vaccine for something that naturally changes every year, its almost like you will need “Boosters” and guess what the shot takers will be lining up for soon.
This list of issues go on enough to write a book. The scare tactics and not telling the whole story has been the mainstay of the pro-vax side.
I don’t debate the seriousnees of a flu, one sixteen years ago almost killed me and I will be living with effects for the rest of my life, but it wasn’t a Pandemic then. If the death toll numbers of the Pandemic have to be lied about and inflated, then it isn’t a Pandemic now.
Definitely not warranting the level of scare tactics and willingness of bring about vaccine mandates. If you want to take these shots, I thank you for be willing to be the lab rat for the last part of the testing, but don’t try forcing it on those who have great number of concerns and questions about the whole thing. You may not be doing that personally, but it is becoming very common on the pro-vax side to do just that.


82 posted on 08/27/2021 8:52:36 AM PDT by fatherofthree (Vaccine Misinformation)
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To: Libloather
”I’m pretty sure it’s 252 times.”

Perhaps the actual number was 251.49 and they rounded down.

That’s pretty impressive precision in measuring viral load. Are they really suggesting that repeating the experiment would result in 251 +/- 1.

Science is hard.

83 posted on 08/27/2021 8:57:29 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: metmom
CDC = liars

I’ve seen those fudged stats before and don’t believe them.

Whistle any louder and you’ll start waking up those bodies in the graveyard.

84 posted on 08/27/2021 9:22:01 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: iontheball
The article is a lie, the paper doesn't say what is claimed. It doesn't compare vaccinated to non-vaccinated, it compared vaccinated delta to previous strains.

"Delta variant infection cases were 251 times higher than those of cases infected with old strains detected between March-April 2020."

85 posted on 08/27/2021 9:42:15 AM PDT by Wayne07
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To: wastedyears

It’s not a PCR test that analyzes for variants.

It’s some special lab thing.

But, the possibilities for deceit are endless!!


86 posted on 08/27/2021 10:26:17 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2 (Widespread belief in asymptomatic spread of a low-risk virus hastened the end of the West by 100 yrs)
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To: iontheball

“The research out of Vietnam, McCullough noted, provides “a key piece to the puzzle explaining why the Delta outbreak is so formidable — fully vaccinated are participating as Covid-19 patients and acting as powerful Typhoid Mary-style superspreaders of the infection. Vaccinated individuals are blasting out concentrated viral explosions into their communities and fueling new Covid surges. Vaccinated healthcare workers are almost certainly infecting their co-workers and patients, causing horrendous collateral damage.”

McCullough continued: “Health systems should drop vaccine mandates immediately, take stock of Covid-19 recovered workers who are robustly immune to Delta and consider the ramifications of their current vaccinated healthcare workers as potential threats to high risk patients and co-workers.””


87 posted on 08/27/2021 10:57:12 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: hawkaw
Am I wrong?

Dude, you're the second stupidest vax pimp out there, after Entropy the Cruise Guy. You're always wrong. Your entire existence is wrong.

You're also a super spreader. Stand back, social distance, and lock it up before you infect us pure bloods.

it also allows vaccinated individuals to carry unusually high viral loads without becoming ill at first, potentially transforming them into pre-symptomatic superspreaders.


88 posted on 08/27/2021 11:14:30 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Bulwyf

One touch from them and you will want to eat brains or the vaccine wants to eat your brain.


89 posted on 08/27/2021 11:57:35 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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To: BiglyCommentary

The masks always have let in other diseases including Covid. Masks are totally ineffective preventing respiratory infection. It has been proven by science for years.


90 posted on 08/27/2021 1:17:34 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: metmom

And this is exactly what the heroic Dr’s like Madej and Merritt have been predicting, and even David Icke: it is the vaccinated who are shedding the virus and spreading disease. Months ago, Icke said the vaccinated are the ones who should be forced to wear masks!

Just Say NO to coronavirus mRNA vaccines

But you won’t be allowed TO BUY OR SELL, TO WORK, in the nation’s most deeply evil places: Sodom (San Fran), Gommorah (LA), New York (Satan’s own home)... etc.

Next up: “Too many fraudulent vaccine certificates - you must stick out your right hand or forehead for your tattoo vaccine passport”... WATCH FOR IT


91 posted on 08/27/2021 2:34:35 PM PDT by guthunde47
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To: goldbux

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92 posted on 08/27/2021 6:21:19 PM PDT by goldbux (No sufficiently rich interpreted language can represent its own semantics. -- Alfred Tarski, 1936)
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To: Arcadian Empire

Yes! Ever since I left the army, I’ve been waiting for this!


93 posted on 08/27/2021 7:10:26 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

Welcome to The Zombie Apocalypse.


94 posted on 08/27/2021 7:50:45 PM PDT by Arcadian Empire
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To: metmom

I’m not an “antivaxxer”.

I’m an “anti experimental gene therapy that has NOT gone through any of the usual trials and tests for years, first” person.

:D


95 posted on 08/27/2021 10:48:46 PM PDT by Salamander ("Salamander has barbaric tendencies" /Gundog)
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To: Salamander

:)


96 posted on 08/27/2021 10:59:33 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: wastedyears

“It’s not a proper vaccine.”

What exactly is your definition of “a proper vaccine”?


97 posted on 08/27/2021 11:09:30 PM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
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To: Pelham

I’ll answer that.

One that vaccinates.

This jab is not a vaccine against anything.


98 posted on 08/27/2021 11:29:34 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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To: hawkaw

The study is comparing vaccinated health care workers during June 2021 with unvaxxed test subjects back in March-April 2020.

So it’s comparing current delta variant cases with original strain cases of last year.

The study didn’t test any currently unvaccinated subjects to see what their viral load with the delta variant might be.

All that the test appears to do is confirm that delta is way more infectious and gets passed around by those vaccinated against the original strain. But as you noted the paper also says “all recovered uneventfully”.


99 posted on 08/27/2021 11:41:30 PM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
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To: eyedigress

Well that’s a classic example of circular reasoning.


100 posted on 08/27/2021 11:42:25 PM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
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