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CDC Exposed for Spreading Wrong Information About How Contagious the Delta Variant Is
Red State ^ | 08/11/2021 | Nick Arama

Posted on 08/11/2021 9:52:13 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) has called out the CDC for being “anti-science,” and it looks like there’s one more thing that he could point to today that would support his claim.

There are two things that you look at when you are judging a virus — transmissibility and severity.

While the Wuhan coronavirus is quite transmissible, it’s not as severe in effect as, for instance, Ebola which has a far greater lethality.

But how transmissible is the new Delta variant that the Biden bunch are flipping out over?

The CDC claimed on July 26 in a slide show presentation that it was as contagious as chickenpox — one of the most contagious viruses ever.

This graphic from the @CDCgov shows just how contagious the COVID Delta variant is, on par with chicken pox pic.twitter.com/svKwL404G0

— Hayley Wielgus (@HayleyWielgus) July 31, 2021

Then, of course, the media spread that everywhere. Notice the assistance of Dr. Zeke Emanuel in promoting that claim.

'Very worrisome': CDC document says Delta variant as contagious as chicken pox @ZekeEmanuel @DrJeanneM https://t.co/lOIQaLWPhY


— Andrea Mitchell (@mitchellreports) July 30, 2021

Naturally, that makes people then overreact to the news.

But as NPR reports, this wasn’t true.

The CDC Said The Delta Variant Is As Contagious As Chickenpox. That's Not Accurate https://t.co/1qo1q53cib



— NPR Health News (@NPRHealth) August 11, 2021

Evolutionary biologist and biostatistician Tom Wenseleers at the University of Leuven in Belgium explained the difference between the Delta variant and chickenpox transmissibility. The R0 or “R naught” is the number of people a sick person will infect, on average, when the entire population is vulnerable to the virus. For chickenpox, that number is around 9 or 10 people. For the Delta variant, it is less, he said — somewhere between 6 and 7. Still highly transmissible, and more than the original strain which was between 2 and 3, but not the same as chickenpox.

So how did they get this so wrong, saying it was “just as transmissible?”

For one, the leaked document underestimated the R0 for chickenpox and overestimated the R0 for the delta variant. “The R0 values for delta were preliminary and calculated from data taken from a rather small sample size,” a federal official told NPR. The value for the chickenpox (and other R0s in the slideshow) came from a graphic from The New York Times, which wasn’t completely accurate.

Whoops. Once again making comments and policy based upon something that’s just wrong and would justify more fear. So how are they being held accountable for spreading stuff like this that is just wrong?

Were they trying to make it seem like they had very robust evidence for their reversal on masks? Were they trying to get people's attention?

Or, say, did the slides represent a minority/heterodox view within the CDC, some individual who disagreed with the agency's take on Delta?

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) August 11, 2021

The internet isn't real life and neither are NYT headlines, but I've met multiple not-online people in real life whose understanding was that Delta is as contagious as chicken pox *even among vaccinated people.* The CDC document and the reporting on it were just abysmal. https://t.co/PKDhhAT6He

— Kevin 👐 Glass (@KevinWGlass) August 11, 2021



TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: cdc; contagiousness; covid; deltavariant; fraud

1 posted on 08/11/2021 9:52:13 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

In before the Branch Covidians.


2 posted on 08/11/2021 9:59:57 PM PDT by wjcsux (RIP Rush Limbaugh 12 Jan 1951- 17 Feb 2021. We really miss you. 😢)
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To: SeekAndFind

they cant put the real facts out

it will destroy the covid fearsteria they are promoting


3 posted on 08/11/2021 10:43:27 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The value for the chickenpox (and other R0s in the slideshow) came from a graphic from The New York Times, which wasn’t completely accurate.

Why would the CDC rely on a graphic from an article in the New York Times to get viral data? Don't they have access to the most accurate information on diseases right there at the CDC?

Was this done by someone who went rogue and either didn't want to or couldn't get access to internal CDC disease data?

Was this done by someone at the CDC who was either incompetent or didn't know how to find the data within the CDC?

Was this just a rush job to satisfy a political demand from above that needed to be completed by the next news cycle?

-PJ

4 posted on 08/11/2021 10:55:06 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (* LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: SeekAndFind

“The value for the chickenpox (and other R0s in the slideshow) came from a graphic from The New York Times, which wasn’t completely accurate.”

This is abysmally unprofessional and incompetent. The CDC personnel should know the R0’s of the diseases they keep the statistics on like the back of their hand. It’s their main job. Using the numbers and graphics of a newspaper is what high school students do, not highly trained public health experts. They are supposed to be the data source for journalists, not the other way around.

Just when I think they can’t dig the grave of their credibility any deeper, they surpass themselves.


5 posted on 08/11/2021 11:01:59 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: SeekAndFind

They put out Delta is a 1000 times more transmissable than the original which was a 1000 times more transmissable than a cold which would make it 1,000,000 than a cold which means their math like everything else they put out is pure BS.


6 posted on 08/12/2021 4:39:31 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Why would the CDC rely on a graphic from an article in the New York Times to get viral data? Don't they have access to the most accurate information on diseases right there at the CDC?

They have the real numbers readily accessible. This was not a mistake; it was a conscious choice.

7 posted on 08/12/2021 6:16:36 AM PDT by Pollster1 (America is no longer in Claire Wolfe's "awkward stage")
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To: SeekAndFind

It seems like CDC lies about a lot of things.


8 posted on 08/12/2021 9:04:38 AM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters. )
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To: SeekAndFind
“The R0 values for delta were preliminary and calculated from data taken from a rather small sample size,” a federal official told NPR.

How to Lie with Statistics.

You can "prove" anything by carefully selecting your sample size and running enough "studies" to claim "Studies show...."

Set up the study right and you can eventually get the result you want.

9 posted on 08/13/2021 5:43:30 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…. )
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