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Do Student Suspensions Really Cause a ‘School-to-Prison Pipeline’?
Daily Signal ^ | 7/28/2021 | Jay Greene

Posted on 07/28/2021 2:52:32 PM PDT by Onthebrink

The Biden administration is picking up where the Obama administration left off in trying to dictate to local school districts how they should best discipline students.

Their justification for acting as national school principal is based on the claim that suspending students harms them by excluding them from the learning environment and by stigmatizing them as troublemakers.

They observe that students who are suspended tend to have worse outcomes later on, including lower test scores, greater likelihood of dropping out, and eventually, a higher rate of committing crimes.

But that observation may confuse what’s causing what.

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1 posted on 07/28/2021 2:52:32 PM PDT by Onthebrink
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To: Onthebrink

No, the lack of fathers does.


2 posted on 07/28/2021 2:59:29 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Onthebrink

It’s more a question of chicken salad and chicken sh?t, haves and haves nots, the old apple and the tree connection.
What came first the chicken or the egg? Can’t escape fate.?


3 posted on 07/28/2021 2:59:46 PM PDT by Recompennation (Don’t blame me my vote didn’t count.)
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To: Onthebrink

No.
But not punishing bullies OR punishing the victim for being bullied does.
Nonsense “zero tolerance” rules do.
Keeping teachers who instill propaganda instead of knowledge, lies instead of facts does.


4 posted on 07/28/2021 3:00:05 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: Onthebrink
No.
5 posted on 07/28/2021 3:00:40 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I refuse to be afraid. I refuse to bow. I refuse to take any job I do not wish to. So BUZZ OFF!)
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To: Onthebrink

If they do then they should.


6 posted on 07/28/2021 3:01:44 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods ( comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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To: Petrosius

another way to view it is that single mothers do.

because they are the ones who decide if dad stays around or not

and they’re the ones who decide what guy sleeps with them


7 posted on 07/28/2021 3:08:11 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Onthebrink

The parents of these children need to take a firmer hand in socializing said children. Indeed, what we need is a broader adoption of the concept of a grade of B being considered equivalent to the “Asian F’ by the parents. Oh, right, that’s racist...


8 posted on 07/28/2021 3:10:56 PM PDT by asinclair (Political hot air is a renewable energy resource)
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To: Onthebrink

I got suspended for 2 days, senior year. I was already admitted to university so it didn’t matter much to me. I punched a guy in the face, Joe Biden style, behind the gym. Left jab. He deserved it. Some faculty witnessed it and sent us to the office. But sitting in the vice principal’s office they asked the guy if he wanted to press charges. He didn’t but I suppose in that respect, school suspension does potentially lead to jail time.


9 posted on 07/28/2021 3:12:46 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Onthebrink

Speaking as someone who taught in city schools for decades:

If you suspend a disruptive kid, he’s out of the class. So he can’t learn. But if you don’t suspend him, he stays in the class. Then nobody learns.

It really is that simple.


10 posted on 07/28/2021 3:19:01 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Petrosius; Onthebrink

11 posted on 07/28/2021 3:26:13 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Honest GOP can't use legal means because Dems use illegal ones (threats). The Robert Creamer Party! )
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To: Onthebrink

There is no school-to-prison pipeline. There is, however, a dysfunctional-home-to-prison pipeline


12 posted on 07/28/2021 3:30:01 PM PDT by ValleyofHope (Anti-marxist ally)
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To: Onthebrink

I got suspended once every year. My dad used me as slave labor, moving his wood piles down in the cellar.


13 posted on 07/28/2021 3:32:05 PM PDT by dgbrown
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To: Leaning Right

Speaking as someone who taught in city schools for decades...


And speaking as someone who taught in a rural/suburban school for decades, I can affirm your statement.

People who haven’t taught have no idea the impact that disruptive students have on a class. One is a bother, but can usually be managed by a teacher if he devotes maybe a quarter of his time dealing with him.

But two or even worse, three or four, completely change the classroom atmosphere from one of teaching and learning to just hoping to keep the chaos under control. Only the mentally/emotionally strongest students have a chance of learning in such an environment.

The days when he or she is absent,—sick, suspended, ditching—it doesn’t matter, the class becomes teachable for a short while.

I have known potentially fine teachers leave the profession because they had the bad luck of drawing crappy classes their first two or three years in the job.

The disputers suck up all of your attention and time and it’s not really fair to the kids who want to or could learn in their absence.


14 posted on 07/28/2021 3:36:38 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Onthebrink

Didn’t they used to funnel them to the Maines?

I know the Marines don’t want idiots. Not sure where to send them.


15 posted on 07/28/2021 3:36:43 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Onthebrink

Maybe they should stop doing things that get them suspended.


16 posted on 07/28/2021 3:58:29 PM PDT by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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have worse outcomes later on, including lower test scores, greater likelihood of dropping out, and eventually, a higher rate of committing crimes.

Maybe those tendencies are what lead to the suspensions.

17 posted on 07/28/2021 4:09:43 PM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Onthebrink

don’t suspend them to home. Suspend them to the auditorium or another secluded area which is staffed with a psychiatric counselor. There they can stay, supervised and ostracized. Suspending them to home, especially if both parents are working, is just another holiday.


18 posted on 07/28/2021 4:56:05 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: Petrosius

Yes, and general lack of discipline. No consequences drives escalating delinquency to criminality.


19 posted on 07/28/2021 5:03:23 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Onthebrink

No. Next question.


20 posted on 07/28/2021 5:05:28 PM PDT by ealgeone
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