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To: libertasbella
You'd better be careful which one ofthese philosophers you heed to, for many ofthem are not godly at all, nor listen and obey their Creator.
"11Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;  12Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.
  13Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;  14Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.  15For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:  16As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God" (1 Peter 2:11-18 AV).

"1I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;  1For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.  3For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth" (1 Timothy 1:1-4 AV).
Lord, leads us not into the hard testing. for Thine is the Glory, not ours.
5 posted on 07/24/2021 3:04:11 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1
I agree with being careful and I might add, of being diligent and thorough in ones research and understanding.

Let me begin by noting that the Bible does not contradict itself. Therefore, we must be able to contextually understand what the author, ultimately God, is telling us. I have a different verses, in times such as these, that I refer back to, which must have a correlation with the rest of scripture.

Romans 12:17-19 (New American Standard Bible 1995)

17 Never pay back evil for evil to anyone. Respect what is right in the sight of all men. 18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, be at peace with all men. 19 Never take your own revenge, beloved, but leave room for the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay,” says the Lord.

Verse 18 is the key and it makes for allowances under some circumstances. Those circumstances are left for you to determine. So don't make your choices lightly.

7 posted on 07/24/2021 4:46:35 AM PDT by Kalam (The Qonjurer)
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To: imardmd1

well brother.

i always have one question about the verses you (and many others frequently) site in support of a doctrine you apparently hold based on those verses in that translation.

if someone or some faction, who has the power to coerce obedience (that is essentially what authority means), orders you to do evil (let’s say aid and abet murder, for example), will you obey?


9 posted on 07/24/2021 9:23:36 AM PDT by dadfly
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