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To: Dr. Franklin

Article 1, section 5 clause 2 says it take a 2/3rds vote to expel a member. I can’t find where it says anything about removing a member with a simple majority. My Constitution doesn’t have a section 5 in article IV; it stops at section 4. Is the simple majority rule in that missing section? I think that wasn’t ratified, except maybe in your head.


155 posted on 07/21/2021 8:37:45 AM PDT by Flying Circus (God help us )
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To: Flying Circus; Dr. Franklin
Article 1, section 5 clause 2 says it take a 2/3rds vote to expel a member.

That is after a trial in Congress. But fraud vitiates everything, putting the member in question at a state before they were sworn in, so a declaration by state Legislature of fraudulent election and quo warranto motion referencing the fraud should be sufficient. They don't have the authority to present themselves for induction into Congress. So Congress only needs to pass a resolution and ignore them until the election is corrected.

IANAL - I am not a lawyer. But we all need to be Constitution literate because our kids need to be able to read it as well. Note that the US Constitution is written in script, which is no longer being taught in schools. Thank you Dr Franklin!

156 posted on 07/21/2021 8:58:52 AM PDT by RideForever (Know Islam, No Peace. Know Peace, No Islam.)
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To: Flying Circus
Article 1, section 5 clause 2 says it take a 2/3rds vote to expel a member.

And when a pretender who never actually won election is exposed, he wasn't really ever a member. So a simple majority can make that adjudication under Article I, Sec. 5., Clause 1. It's a judicial function given to the Houses of Congress.

My Constitution doesn’t have a section 5 in article IV; it stops at section 4.

So you plainly read the Guarantee Clause, the Constitution's Prime Directive, which I referenced:

Section 4
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,
175 posted on 07/21/2021 4:41:08 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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