Restoring Trump may start with decertifying one "elected" 2020 U.S. Senator

Dr. Franklin | July 20, 2021 | Dr. Franklin

[Dr. Franklin]

Challenges to the presidential electors for GA, MI, NV, and WI all failed when the House members making the objections failed to gain the support of a single U.S. Senator. Together these states comprised 48 EV, which was more than enough to flip the election result. But what if a duly elected U.S. Senator was unable to participate in that process because a fraudulent pretender was wrongfully certified in his/her place? Would that make the entire Jan. 6-7th certification of Joe and Ho's "victory" null and void in either a quo warranto action, or reopening of that certification by Congress?

[Dr. Franklin]

The Houses of Congress by the Article I, Sec. 5 of the U.S. Constitution are the judge of election of their respective members. (But the constitution makes no mention of Congress being the judge of the election of presidential electors.) A fraudulently elected Congressional pretender would likely be unmasked first by some action at the state level. This would be either a state official decertifying the election, a state judge making such a determination through a writ of quo warranto, (or a similar legal action even if not entitled as such), or a resolution of the state legislature. Once that is done, it would trigger the appropriate House of Congress to revoke recognition of that member. That would be followed by either the certification and recognition of the actual winner, or if that is impossible to determine, the appointment of an interim senator by the state governor.

Once that is done, that senator could and should make the argument in Congress that the the Jan. 6-7th certification process was illegal, or that state's AG could make a similar argument at SCOTUS through quo warranto. With the obvious election fraud in AZ, GA, and MI, more than one senate seat could be reversed and start this process. Since flipping one senate seat would change control of the U.S. Senate, that should be a focus as a first step in addressing the fraudulent 2020 election returns.

[knarf]

Who do you have in mind ?

[No_Mas_Obama]

Problem is that Trump “lost” AZ, GA and MI by far fewer votes than Kelly, Warlock and Peters “won” their respective Senate seats. In other words, because of generally weak Stupid Party Senate candidates it would be harder to flip those seats back beyond the margin of known fraud.

[glimmerman70]

Pence could have listened and sent it back to the state legislature to look into fraud for 10 days. They had leaders from the states their on the 6th asking.

[Dr. Franklin]

Problem is that Trump “lost” AZ, GA and MI by far fewer votes than Kelly, Warlock and Peters “won” their respective Senate seats. In other words, because of generally weak Stupid Party Senate candidates it would be harder to flip those seats back beyond the margin of known fraud.

An audit in GA will show that David Perdue won over 50% of the vote on Election Day. Thus, he was reelected to the Senate with all of the seniority that came with that. Yet, he was wrongfully excluded from the Jan. 6-7th certification debate. Consequently, history was changed.

[Tupelo]

Nope. President Bought & Paid For was ‘certified’ due the indifference of the judicial branch. If we do not get our election process under control before November 2022, you may never see another Republican president or Republican majority in either house.
Hell, with the dissatisfaction with the Vichy Republicans, by conservatives like me, you may never see another Republican president period.

[fatman6502002]

Please, dispense with the ridiculous claim that President Trump is going to be reinstated as President. It ain’t gonna happen. I would love to see it happen, but it’s just not realistic to believe it will because there are just not enough Rs with a stiff spine and willingness to unleash the violence which the progressive socialist democrat party will unleash upon the nation.

[Alberta's Child]

Pence had no authority to do any such thing. As the presiding officer in a joint session of Congress he had no authority to do anything unilaterally except cast a tie-breaking vote in the Senate.

The time to fix the 2020 election farce was before the December 14th certification of the electors in every state.

This idea of giving “10 days to look into fraud” is like “15 days to flatten the curve.” The original Constitution and the 12th Amendment were explicitly written to prevent states from stalling the presidential election process.

[Dr. Franklin]

Nope. President Bought & Paid For was ‘certified’ due the indifference of the judicial branch. If we do not get our election process under control before November 2022, you may never see another Republican president or Republican majority in either house. Hell, with the dissatisfaction with the Vichy Republicans, by conservatives like me, you may never see another Republican president period.

In other words, if we don't fix the 2020 elections, the Republic is over. Flipping one Senate election is much easier legally and factually than flipping presidential electors in three states.

[glimmerman70]

Then why was people saying he had the power to send it back to the state. I am not versed well on the actual powers of the constitution. I just assumed the way Trump was talking that he had the power to do so.

[Williams]

People say a lot of things.

[glimmerman70]

I think the main reason something won’t be done is because no matter what proof of fraud comes out the media won’t report it and social media won’t let it be posted. When it’s not on the local nightly news then it didn’t happen in most people’s eyes. I knew when the video of them pulling boxes of ballots from under tables in the middle of the night and running them through the machines (some stacks multiple times) with no one around came out and it didn’t go nation wide because someone said it was debunked that it was a wrap. It don’t get any clearer than that.

[sevinufnine]

I agree. Much as I’d love to see Trump walk back into the WH as POTUS, ain’t happening. Least not unless God permits a miracle next presidential election. Meaning....the fraud is controlled, no new pandemics, etc.

[glimmerman70]

Agreed.

[babble-on]

Thank you for your service.

[laconic]

I agree that Trump cannot be reinstated; I also believe that this was clearly a stolen election so at this point the only thing we can do is to throw earned shade on the legitimacy of His Fraudulency’s presidency. On the other hand, it appears that enough votes were stolen to take Perdue below 50 percent for a January runoff that should never have occurred. Perdue should be installed in the Senate and Ossoff removed, making it 51-49 R. I don’t know if the State of GA has any legislation for this on the books but the R State Senate should be examining it closely.

[Empire_of_Liberty]

I can only come up with two alternatives regarding the stolen US Senate seats in this election:

1) The GOPe involved were too stupid to realize that the Democrats would do this while they stole Trump’s presidency.

2) The seats were “payment” that the GOPe made to the Democrats for getting rid of Trump.

Neither make our guys look very smart, nor do they bode well for fixing the US Senate.

[bigbob]

It’s fun to speculate.

[HandBasketHell]

Problem is that Trump “lost” AZ, GA and MI by far fewer votes than Kelly, Warlock and Peters “won” their respective Senate seats. In other words, because of generally weak Stupid Party Senate candidates it would be harder to flip those seats back beyond the margin of known fraud.

Only a forensic audit is going to show just how deep and widespread the fraud really is. We've always known that Democrats cheat, regardless of how much the MSM tells us to the contrary. I think the cheating is a lot more than what we ever suspected.

Democrats always overplay their hand (while Republicans fold when holding a royal flush). I'm praying that the AZ audit is going to expose not only the fake mail-in ballots, but also reveal the Dominion cheat algorithm. If we can purge enough RINOs from the state legislatures in the 2022 primaries and replace them with Constitutional patriots, then we stand a chance of beating the fraud in 2024.