Posted on 07/10/2021 9:29:48 AM PDT by blam
As the ruling class went to absurd lengths to try and dismantle Donald Trump, pissed off supporters watched in horror as a captured media peddled lie after lie – typically based on anonymous leaks from deep state bureaucrats, and as powerful agents within America’s intelligence apparatus falsified evidence and collaborated with foreign operatives paid by Trump’s political opponents.
In doing so, they exposed themselves to anyone not already paying attention.
Darryl Cooper, aka @MartyrMade, has assembled what might be the most accurate summation of why Trump supporters – the vast majority of conservatives – are livid after the past five years. Cooper, a researcher and writer, is the co-host of The Unraveling Podcast with retired US Navy SEAL commander Jocko Willink, and has hosted several deep-dive podcasts on a number of topics.
Read below:
Most believe some or all of the theories involving midnight ballots, voting machines, etc, but what you find when you talk to them is that, while they’ll defend those positions w/info they got from Hannity or Breitbart or whatever, they’re not particularly attached to them. 2/x
— MartyrMade (@martyrmade) July 8, 2021
(continued via Threadreader, emphasis ours)
Here are the facts – actual, confirmed facts – that shape their perspective: 1) The FBI/etc spied on the 2016 Trump campaign using evidence manufactured by the Clinton campaign. We now know that all involved knew it was fake from Day 1 (see: Brennan’s July 2016 memo, etc). These are Tea Party people. The types who give their kids a pocket Constitution for their birthday and have Founding Fathers memes in their bios. The intel community spying on a presidential campaign using fake evidence (incl forged documents) is a big deal to them.
Everyone involved lied about their involvement as long as they could. We only learned the DNC paid for the manufactured evidence because of a court order. Comey denied on TV knowing the DNC paid for it, when we have emails from a year earlier proving that he knew. This was true with everyone, from CIA Dir Brennan & Adam Schiff – who were on TV saying they’d seen clear evidence of collusion w/Russia, while admitting under oath behind closed doors that they hadn’t – all the way down the line. In the end we learned that it was ALL fake.
At first, many Trump ppl were worried there must be some collusion, because every media & intel agency wouldn’t make it up out of nothing. When it was clear that they had made it up, people expected a reckoning, and shed many illusions about their gov’t when it didn’t happen. We know as fact: a) The Steele dossier was the sole evidence used to justify spying on the Trump campaign, b) The FBI knew the Steele dossier was a DNC op, c) Steele’s source told the FBI the info was unserious, d) they did not inform the court of any of this and kept spying.
Trump supporters know the collusion case front and back. They went from worrying the collusion must be real, to suspecting it might be fake, to realizing it was a scam, then watched as every institution – agencies, the press, Congress, academia – gaslit them for another year. Worse, collusion was used to scare people away from working in the administration. They knew their entire lives would be investigated. Many quit because they were being bankrupted by legal fees. The DoJ, press, & gov’t destroyed lives and actively subverted an elected admin.
This is where people whose political identity was largely defined by a naive belief in what they learned in Civics class began to see the outline of a Regime that crossed all institutional boundaries. Because it had stepped out of the shadows to unite against an interloper. GOP propaganda still has many of them thinking in terms of partisan binaries, but A LOT of Trump supporters see that the Regime is not partisan. They all know that the same institutions would have taken opposite sides if it was a Tulsi Gabbard vs Jeb Bush election.
It’s hard to describe to people on the left (who are used to thinking of gov’t as a conspiracy… Watergate, COINTELPRO, WMD, etc) how shocking & disillusioning this was for people who encourage their sons to enlist in the Army, and hate ppl who don’t stand for the Anthem. They could have managed the shock if it only involved the government. But the behavior of the corporate press is really what radicalized them. They hate journalists more than they hate any politician or gov’t official, because they feel most betrayed by them. The idea that the press is driven by ratings/sensationalism became untenable. If that were true, they’d be all over the Epstein story. The corporate press is the propaganda arm of the Regime they now see in outline. Nothing anyone says will ever make them unsee that, period.
This is profoundly disorienting. Many of them don’t know for certain whether ballots were faked in November 2020, but they know for absolute certain that the press, the FBI, etc would lie to them if there was. They have every reason to believe that, and it’s probably true. They watched the press behave like animals for four years. Tens of millions of people will always see Kavanaugh as a gang rapist, based on nothing, because of CNN. And CNN seems proud of that. They led a lynch mob against a high school kid. They cheered on a summer of riots.
They always claimed the media had liberal bias, fine, whatever. They still thought the press would admit truth if they were cornered. Now they don’t. It’s a different thing to watch them invent stories whole cloth in order to destroy regular lives and spark mass violence. Time Mag told us that during the 2020 riots, there were weekly conference calls involving, among others, leaders of the protests, the local officials who refused to stop them, and media people who framed them for political effect. In Ukraine we call that a color revolution.
Throughout the summer, Democrat governors took advantage of COVID to change voting procedures. It wasn’t just the mail-ins (they lowered signature matching standards, etc). After the collusion scam, the fake impeachment, Trump ppl expected shenanigans by now. Re: “fake impeachment”, we now know that Trump’s request for Ukraine to cooperate w/the DOJ regarding Biden’s $ activities in Ukraine was in support of an active investigation being pursued by the FBI and Ukraine AG at the time, and so a completely legitimate request.
Then you get the Hunter laptop scandal. Big Tech ran a full-on censorship campaign against a major newspaper to protect a political candidate. Period. Everyone knows it, all of the Tech companies now admit it was a “mistake” – but, ya know, the election’s over, so who cares? Goes w/o saying, but: If the NY Times had Don Jr’s laptop, full of pics of him smoking crack and engaging in group sex, lots of lurid family drama, emails describing direct corruption and backed up by the CEO of the company they were using, the NYT wouldn’t have been banned.
The way liberal journalists just ignore what was, to me, one of the most repressive events of the Trump years — Big Tech **censored** reporting on the Hunter Biden docs about Joe’s business deals to help Dems — is still stunning. 3 weeks before the election, they barred links. https://t.co/WKWlkU01be
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) July 9, 2021
Think back: Stories about Trump being pissed on by Russian prostitutes and blackmailed by Putin were promoted as fact, and the only evidence was a document paid for by his opposition and disavowed by its source. The NY Post was banned for reporting on true information. The reaction of Trump ppl to all this was not, “no fair!” That’s how they felt about Romney’s “binders of women” in 2012. This is different. Now they see, correctly, that every institution is captured by ppl who will use any means to exclude them from the political process. And yet they showed up in record numbers to vote. He got 13m more votes than in 2016, 10m more than Clinton got! As election night dragged on, they allowed themselves some hope. But when the four critical swing states (and only those states) went dark at midnight, they knew.
Over the ensuing weeks, they got shuffled around by grifters and media scam artists selling them conspiracy theories. They latched onto one, then another increasingly absurd theory as they tried to put a concrete name on something very real Media & Tech did everything to make things worse. Everything about the election was strange – the changes to procedure, unprecedented mail-in voting, the delays, etc – but rather than admit that and make everything transparent, they banned discussion of it (even in DMs!).
Everyone knows that, just as Don Jr’s laptop would’ve been the story of the century, if everything about the election dispute was the same, except the parties were reversed, suspicions about the outcome would’ve been Taken Very Seriously. See 2016 for proof.
Even the courts’ refusal of the case gets nowhere w/them, because of how the opposition embraced mass political violence. They’ll say, w/good reason: What judge will stick his neck out for Trump knowing he’ll be destroyed in the media as a violent mob burns down his house? It’s a fact, according to Time Magazine, that mass riots were planned in cities across the country if Trump won. Sure, they were “protests”, but they were planned by the same people as during the summer, and everyone knows what it would have meant. Judges have families, too.
Forget the ballot conspiracies. It’s a fact that governors used COVID to unconstitutionally alter election procedures (the Constitution states that only legislatures can do so) to help Biden to make up for a massive enthusiasm gap by gaming the mail-in ballot system. They knew it was unconstitutional, it’s right there in plain English. But they knew the cases wouldn’t see court until after the election. And what judge will toss millions of ballots because a governor broke the rules? The threat of mass riots wasn’t implied, it was direct.
a) The entrenched bureaucracy & security state subverted Trump from Day 1, b) The press is part of the operation, c) Election rules were changed, d) Big Tech censors opposition, e) Political violence is legitimized & encouraged, f) Trump is banned from social media.
They were led down some rabbit holes, but they are absolutely right that their gov’t is monopolized by a Regime that believes they are beneath representation, and will observe no limits to keep them getting it. Trump fans should be happy he lost; it might’ve kept him alive.
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As long as you’re here, check out my podcast. The most recent episode was on the Soviet takeover of Eastern Europe. There’s also a series on the early history of the Israeli-Arab conflict, and one on Jim Jones’ Peoples’ Temple movement. https://t.co/oJE6176rND
— MartyrMade (@martyrmade) July 8, 2021
This is an absolutely brilliant exposition on the underlying mindset, grievances and motivations of Trump/MAGA supporters. It’s not as cathartic as screaming Racist and Fascist but much more illuminating. Don’t agree with every particular, etc. etc., but hope everyone reads this: https://t.co/VuHink6ouK
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) July 9, 2021
Dang, it didn’t do all the links
And it just never ends. Trump got in trouble 100% because he sided with average people.
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Too many lies from too many people for far too long. Even the casual observer can see that the rule of law is dead and buried in an unmarked grave. The only justice to be had is the justice you make for yourself, all else be damned.
I’ve basically said this for the past couple years, though not nearly as well as the author. The problem for us is that many nefarious actors have filled in the information vacuumed left by the traitorous press. Many of those actors are state sponsored, so rather than consume propaganda and lies from the leftist regime media, we get it from China and Russia.
Since I first read this tweet stream, something else struck me: the people on the other side, the ones who endlessly cover up Biden’s mental state, who bought every lie about Trump when he was in office, cheered on the unfounded impeachment efforts and are happy to keep buying into the 1/6 “worse than anything” narrative, and were so sure that all those stories about Hillary were also made up... They don’t care about the truth, or the constitution, they only care that their side wins.
They knew Hillary’s email server was set up illegally and some seriously shady stuff went on. They knew that Comey whitewashed the investigation. (That is ok though, because having a woman president is more important than having a secretary of state abide by the law)
They know about the pee pee dossier, that it was made up, used to spy on Trump, presented to the Fisa court as fact illegally, and the investigation into that illegal act was itself whitewashed. (They also believe that if the FBI was able to dog long enough, they’d find something that Trump was guilty of)
They know both impeachment efforts were shams. (But it’s justified because Trump had to be guilty of something)
They know Biden has dementia and Harris is not capable of running the country effectively. (But it’s ok, because Trump isn’t ruining the country any longer)
They know the capital protests in January weren’t particularly significant in the history of the nation and they probably know that dozens to hundreds of people, many who did nothing more than accidentally trespass through an open door of a building they didn’t know was closed, remain jailed as political prisoners. (Again, ok by then because they aren’t people)
They can know all of this and more, and it doesn’t matter to them because their side is winning, and even if it means collapsing all of the institutions that Americans trust to just stay winning for one more election cycle, they’re prepared to do it because in their minds winning is the only thing that matters.
No amount of evidence presented would get them to accept Trump as a legitimately elected president during his time in office because “orange man bad” and anything, no matter how absurd or corrupt, no matter what institution gets wrecked along the way, it is all justified. The effort spent trying to present counterclaims and counterarguments hoping to address their arguments as actual discussions is wasted. The only thing worth saying is “you are spouting BS, we both know it’s BS, and until you are ready to admit that the BS you previously spouted was fabricated, there’s no sense talking to you or listening to additional BS from you when it comes to these topics.”
Was this written before or after Tucker said almost exactly the same thing?
Tucker was just reading from this same Twitter rant, and gave full credit to the author.
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I’m so glad you posted this- it’s all over the internet. Brilliant thread by Cooper and thanks to Tucker for reading it on his ahow it will be widely read.
This guy has no idea what he’s in for😒
Spot on.
And what do people do when they can’t get their government to listen to them?
Revolting how much of my anger is summarized here. Should I be revolting?Against who? How?
Maybe so, but the voters are going to be about results. There is only so long that the RNC/“Corporations are people” types are going to string people along treating Trump like a personality cult instead of actually enacting his policies. I think the Democrats have figured that out, and they don’t want to lose “their” working class voters after having alienated them at the behest of crazy people.
Frankly I think you’d be hard pressed to choose between the RINO globalist Chamber types, and the Democrats as being the worse human beings. They have both sold the country out.
See, the really insulting thing is that there are people selling ad hominem attacks and personality cults in place of decent policies, like we are about magical thinking and “catharsis” like the people the Democrats have lied to for decades. Most people don’t want to pay 256% of what the rest of the world is paying for medicine. Go figure!
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