Which is the better long-distance round: 5.56 or 7.62?

wearethemighty.com ^ | June 28, 2021 | Alex Hollings

[gundog]

There is an old GunDigest article on the steps that people used to have to go through to make 7.62 x 39 ammo. A real pain.

[Big Red Badger]

A little Gun Porn
Might take the edge
Off there,ProCon.
.
Personally,
It’s been so long
I can’t remember what
It’s like!

[Tailback]

I don’t hunt. I shoot for accuracy.

[Still Thinking]

Well, the question was what works better on long shots, and yes, a cannon would be effective to a greater range than either of those rounds.

[Openurmind]

As a Curio? I was in Ca when they outlawed them. Az now.

[gundog]

I would think you’d be fine anywhere in the nation. Even Canadians are flaunting them on FB. There’s a host of opinions out there, C&R SKSs seem to be good to go, regardless of nation of origin. Some of the Chinese ones imported under Clinton may be an issue. The commercial ones in particular. I know they’re importing them with bayonets on them, now. CA may have issues if you add pistol grips.

This shows AZ as wide open:

https://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/banned-guns/

[Openurmind]

Great article for reference thank you! I never understood the idiotic difference between a blade and a spike, they will both poke you and kill you. The stupid Ca “scary looking” factor again?

Honestly I always took the bayonet off anyhow. I don’t plan on letting anyone get close enough that I would need it. That mount is better purposed for other accessories such as a bipod.

But having one being legal would help with resale of an “all original with blade bayonet” for sure!

[Openurmind]

Just had to share this off the board... I have a friend of a friend of a friend who took a spike bayonet and cut it off of the flip up mount. Did some welding and made a flip up “Oil Can” where it slides over the end of the barrel.

Actually a pretty cool idea for repurposing that mount. :)

[gundog]

All of the parts are becoming scarcer. Some are exorbitant.

The Chinese went from blade to spike bayonet fairly early. It’s more an issue of when the rifle was imported. Many had their bayonet lugs removed for importation. Also, some Chinese rifles were made for the civilian market and are not C&Rs.

[Openurmind]

Yep, all true... :)

[gundog]

A threaded adapter to take an oil filter? Asking for a friend of a friend of a friend.

[Openurmind]

PM, sent... :)

[Openurmind]

I highly suggest not doing this because it might not be legal, I would never do it myself.

[Vlad0]

Wow, I'm pretty jealous of that list of Weatherby cartridges.

A good friend of mine, a fanatic hunter who goes on multiple deer and elk hunts every year in different states swears by his 7mm Weatherby Mag (but still has a bunch of other guns, including a 300 Weatherby Mag).

I drooled over both the cartridges and the guns when I was a young engineer. At the time they were just out of reach cost wise. I got a .25-06 as the cheaper runner up on the .25 Weatherby Mag, which stood out as a laser-beam of flatness in the Ballistic Tables in the back of Gun Digest back in that era.

Of course, now there are lots of new high-velocity rounds from various makers, even a couple from Weatherby!

I think there is a point of diminishing return on shooting giant cartridges to get a little more velocity, but I'm not sure where it is!

I like the looks of the new 6.5mm Weatherby RPM

This beast is slightly faster than the good ol' .264 Winchester Mag - another cartridge I've always loved but never owned. The .264 Win Mag came chambered in a Winchester rifle that was dubbed "The Westerner" when it was released. Now I like old cartridges because they are old, which I guess has to do with my increasing age. There is just something fun about cartridges that date from the 1950s and the guns that chambered them.

Reading (just now) the page on the .264 Win Mag (which was part of Winchester's triple shot of .375 H&H based cartridges: the .338 Win Mag ("the Alaskan") and the .458 Win Mag for African hunting.

All three were super successful cartridges, and 70 years later the "innovations" used to surpass them are sort of minor. The new Weatherby has done away with the belt, and done away with the double-radius case, but is still pretty much a .264 Win Mag in performance (yeah, a touch faster).

An original circa 1958 Winchester "Westerner" chambered in .264 Winchester Magnum.

Which of your Weatherby's do you enjoy the most?

[Dusty Road]

“Which of your Weatherby’s do you enjoy the most?”

That’s easy. The 257 Weatherby is by far my favorite, it’s just about perfect for anything smaller than elk size. I’d have no problem taking an elk with it but I’d have to move up in bullet weight and doing that costs velocity. Funny you mention the 264 Win Mag. I always liked that round but when it was first offered you could only get 140 grain ammo for it. That was a time when velocity was king and they hobbled it right off the bat, by the time they figured it out the 7-mag had already passed them in popularity. Hand loaders were shooting 120 and 100 grain bullets through it and were getting plenty of speed from it.3600 fps with the 100’s and 3300 with the 130’s.
If I was to buy another Weatherby I’d probably get a 6.5-300 and just like the 254 Win Mag I’d keep bullet weight 130 or below.

[griffin]

Bah. He doesn’t even define ‘long range’. Silly.

[meyer]

The other 7.62, aka .308 Winchester.

[wgmalabama]

Agreed. Compare these at the 100-200 yards/meters. Past that grab your deer rifle.