Posted on 06/22/2021 7:44:04 AM PDT by USA Conservative
Months into Joe Biden’s first term, supporters of former President Donald Trump are still claiming that Trump actually won the 2020 election.
Even liberal media outlets reported that roughly one-third of Americans believe that President Biden’s 2020 electoral victory was the result of widespread voter fraud, according to a new Monmouth University poll.
Thirty-two percent of respondents say fraud was the reason Biden won the presidential election, maintaining a trend that has taken hold over the past seven months.
In similar Monmouth polls conducted in November, January, and March, the number of voters who believe that fraud cost former President Trump a second term in the White House has remained steady at 32 percent.
At the beginning of June during an event in Dallas, Sidney Powell suggested Trump could be reinstated as president even now, saying that “it should be that he can simply be reinstated, that a new Inauguration Day is set.”
Today Boris Epshteyn said that no one can state for certain that it would be unconstitutional for former President Donald Trump to be reinstated to the presidency since the U.S. Constitution does not prohibit reinstatement and the issue has never been ruled upon.
During an interview with Dr. Gina Loudon on Real America’s Voice, Epshteyn, a former Trump 2020 strategic advisor, predicted that the matter will land in the nation’s high court.
Epshteyn said that “the interplay of the 10th Amendment” to the U.S. Constitution, the 12th Amendment and Article II, “would suggest that states do have a right to decertify. And from then, it’s an open question what happens next.”
He said that after information becomes available from state audits, “decertification should happen because that’s the correct step from the states. And from then on in terms of deciding what to do about the federal election, well, there’s gonna be an open question,” he noted, remarking that he believes that the matter will go before the Supreme Court.
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Some folks from the left dispute these claims as pure fantasy. “It would take a new constitutional amendment to change that,” Eugene Volokh, a professor at UCLA School of Law, told CNN.
Per the 20th Amendment, the only way someone else could serve as acting president is if Congress determined that neither the president-elect nor vice president-elect has qualified by Inauguration Day. However, seeing as the results of the election declaring Biden victorious were certified, the window for such a possibility has closed.
According to Volokh, under the current Constitution a sitting president can be removed ahead of the expiration of their term only through resignation, impeachment, and conviction, or the provisions for presidential disability in the 25th Amendment.
Harvard University Law School Professor of Constitutional Law Laurence Tribe told CNN it’s “still weird and wild,” adding that it’s likely “it would be unconstitutional if a law was passed to that effect.”
Tribe referred to these comments as “part of a fantasy world that is truly dangerous to democracy.”
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It won’t happen. There’s no historical precedent of a Marxist takeover being reversed. There will be no bloodless coup in the US.
Trump should get a two term do over.
I’ve read he doesn’t even have to be an elected member of the House to become Speaker of the House.
I believe that everything that is happening is according to a plan by those who are in charge Ramana call the white hats and President trumps people
They’ve let a lot of the information out in bits and pieces
Do you not think that with the executive order 13838 take the Intel agencies don’t have all of the data I need for an election interference?
Do we not think that the state of Arizona audit is going to come up with some stunning figure of about 400 500,000 votes cast in one county in Arizona?
Do we not think that President Trump knew that this was the one chance for America to finally tackle the Democrats vote fraud machine which has been entrenched in two states in great part all over the country California New York Illinois you name it?
Do you not think that truly uncovering vote fraud is not something that could’ve been done even between November 3 and January 6?
Do you notice how in Arizona they are being very thorough and taking their time and documenting absolutely everything and then just letting out a little bits and pieces here and there?
We’ve all seen Mike went down videos absolute interference and absolutely 90 right?
Those are not BS those people are not full of crap
And we’ve had Mike Lindel Lynnwood and numerous others say mid August trumps going to be reinstated
Since the constitution allows 11 years total. And:
11yrs - 4yrs = 7yrs left
IF he gets reinstated, he should be good for ANOTHER reelection I think. As for what a Harvard [spit!] law “professor” claims I don’t put any credence in them.
Wouldn’t some house and senate seats also become potentially problematic if evidence of widespread fraud was revealed?
Thus, this issue could have profound ramifications for the entire government.
My guess is that the Supremes, and the GOP, would never go along with undoing any of the election “results”. But it would put them in the awkward position of having to defend fraud and all the consequences stemming from it.
A commonly used government strategy is to drag something out until people become less intense about it. That’s probably the kind of thing we could expect from the team Supremes and pretty much the entirety of the DC political establishment. Delay, Dissemble, and Defuse.
As for what a Harvard [spit!] law “professor” claims I don’t put any credence in them.
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The legal and constitutional issues could well be problematic but condoning fraud on such a massive scale would raise serious questions about the legitimacy of the government. That would be a very big problem for the Dc establishment. It strikes at the heart of Americans’ beliefs about fairness.
No doubt the Swamp has already started thinking of ways to sweep the problem under the rug. Protecting their own power is all they car about.
This is the same argument Hillary was using with her supporters as they tried to prove Trump stole the election. They actually were discussing how to transition her into the office once he was gone.
And there are plenty of thread in FR with the same information. It could happen.
Do I think it will, no. But I also will not say it couldn’t. And I live very close to DC and if that day came, I would be manning the barricades in DC because the progressives would lose their collective minds.
This is the same argument Hillary was using with her supporters as they tried to prove Trump stole the election. They actually were discussing how to transition her into the office once he was gone.
And there are plenty of thread in FR with the same information. It could happen.
Do I think it will, no. But I also will not say it couldn’t. And I live very close to DC and if that day came, I would be manning the barricades in DC because the progressives would lose their collective minds.
He would need to only have <2 years left in the current term to qualify for a full term after that. The max is 10 years.
In the United States, the president of the United States is elected indirectly through the United States Electoral College to a four-year term, with a term limit of two terms (totaling eight years) or a maximum of ten years if the president acted as president for two years or less in a term where another was elected as president, imposed by the Twenty-second Amendment to the United States Constitution, ratified in 1951.
The Vice President also serves four-year terms but without any term limit. U.S. Representatives serve two-year terms. U.S. Senators serve six-year terms.
Twenty Second Amendment
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President, when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
Amendment 20
If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.The Constitution has a clear process for handling the case where a President does not qualify or is not decided in time for inauguration.
This is why I've been floating an idea that is based on the 20th amendment.
-PJ
As long as we're dreaming, here is a possible Constitutional solution if the stolen election is proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
- Mass calls for resignation of key Democrats in the House of Representatives. Special elections fill those seats with Republicans.
- Democrat Senators who won in stolen swing states are hounded to resign. Governors appoint the actual winning candidate to the seats.
- Congress invokes the 20th amendment and declares ex post facto that the President-Elect did not qualify, should not have been sworn into office, and declares the Presidency and Vice-Presidency vacant. This is not an ex post facto law, as it is already in the 20th amendment. The only question is arguing the legitimacy of declaring no statue of limitations on "failing to qualify" and of not letting criminals profit from their crimes (fruit of the poisonous tree).
- Via the 20th amendment, Congress declares the actual winner (President Trump) to fill the vacancy as "Acting President" until the office can be filled by someone who qualifies.
- Via the 20th amendment, Congress passes a law moving the Presidential election up to 2022, and that it will forever be on a new four-year schedule beginning in 2022. This will satisfy Presidential term limits, as Trump will fill less than half of Biden's illegitimate term and then get his own second term. He won't be penalized for losing part of his term because of Democrat criminality.
- The asterisk in the history books explaining the change in the Presidential cycle will forever be a stain on the nation caused by Democrats, along with slavery, Jim Crow, Plessy v Ferguson, and opposition to the Civil Rights of 1964.
Where do you find a "presidential election" in the Constitution?
If Republicans retake control of Congress and declares that the President failed to qualify and then covered it up, they should use the power of the 20th amendment to vacate the office and appoint an "acting President" while Congress puts in place a method to select a new President.
Congress can select President Trump to become Acting President for the interim. Then, Congress can pass a law to change the date of the Presidential election, moving it up to 2022 and putting it on a new four-year cycle.
This way, President Trump will have served his first term, less than two years of a vacated illegally obtained term, and then run for one more term of his own.
-PJ
Meeting of the Electoral College. Do you feel better now?
Article II Section 1
The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.
Amendment 20
Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selectedCombine the two powers and move up the Presidential election.
-PJ
tenth amendment leaving those powers not restricted reserved for the people and the states.
The Constitution is not a suicide pact. You don’t get to wipe your azz with the constitution, steal an election by fraud, and then wrap yourself in it and claim the constitution does not allow truth to be restored.
Bank robbers don’t get to keep the money by claimed the police have no right to take it back after they get away.
And this SPECIFICALLY is why we have a second amendment.
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