BREAKING: GA JUDGE ALLOWS FURTHER SCAN OF MAIL-IN BALLOT INSPECTION IN FULTON COUNTY…GROUND ZERO OF ELECTION FRAUD…CASE COULD FLIP PRESIDENTIAL CERTIFICATION

CD Media ^ | May 21, 20 | CD Media Staff

[PIF]

It’s quite a ways to go before that endpoint but it’s what leaders of audits and court battles are thinking.

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Probably take 8 years or so ...

[jmacusa]

Georgia Peach. Georgia Nuke.

[SkyDancer]

Well technically speaking re: Ford it was a tad different.

[Dr. Franklin]

The only methods for removing a sitting US President from office within the framework of the US Constitution are impeachment (that isn’t happening) and the 25th Amendment (also not happening.

Actually, the writ of quo warranto can issue to remove a pretender from office. That has a constitutional basis:
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government..."
U.S. Constitution, Article IV, Sec. 1, The Guarantee Clause

When the a state official, or the U.S. Congress, knowingly certifies a fraudulent election, they violate the U.S. Constitution. Judges who invent equitable defenses to that legal right of the citizenry, also violate the constitution and should be impeached. When no government official will remedy the obvious fraud, then the "other unspoken option" is always on the table.

[precisionshootist]

Better have armed guards and cameras on those ballots 24/7 starting now.

[Fester Chugabrew]

So a public official who attains office via fraud is entitled to retain and execute his office. A Constitutional convention needs to address this r.e. POTUS. At bottom it is not a removal from office in the first place, because the office was obtained fraudulently and is thereby rendered null and void.

[Osage Orange]

We shall see what we shall see.....

[Swirl]

“There is no Constitutional means to reverse certification”

Sure there is, but its drastic, and I dont think sizable group of citizens are ready for this action.

[Guenevere]

Bttt

[Yo-Yo]

So a public official who attains office via fraud is entitled to retain and execute his office.

We're not talking about "a" public official, we are talking about the Presidency. And the Constitution explicitly outlines how to remove a President.

The Constitution does not explicitly outline how to remove the County Dog Catcher, so State or Federal law has jurisdiction in the matter. Not so specifically for the Presidency.

[Pajamajan]

"Better have armed guards and cameras on those ballots 24/7 starting now."

Yes. Immediately.

[2aProtectsTheRest]

"When the a state official, or the U.S. Congress, knowingly certifies a fraudulent election, they violate the U.S. Constitution."

The problem with that is that the election you and I vote in is NOT the election that selects the President of the United States. States select electors to cast ballots in the Electoral College. The states don't need to hold elections to select electors. They can select them by random lottery system. Or by who's tallest in the state. They can select them by holding gladiator style arena fights. It's totally up to them. And whoever the state selects has the legal authority to cast their ballot for whomever they choose.

Once the electors are chosen and the EC ballots are cast, that's the end of the process. There is no provision for reversing it. The states have had their say. If the state didn't think their process was working as expected (e.g. that a popular election had a fraudulent result), their recourse was to hold off selecting electors until they could sort out their own problem. But we're way past all that now.

Rather than engaging in fantasies that waste time and energy, we should be focused on the future, which means demonstrating that fraud is possible, that it actually happened, and that concrete steps are needed to secure all future elections from additional fraud. THAT is the focus that can yield positive change. The rest of this is fantasy.

[Yo-Yo]

Sure there is, but its drastic, and I dont think sizable group of citizens are ready for this action.

I think that an "when in the course of events" moment would be by definition considered outside the Constitution.

[Hostage]

Vernon Jones as Governor would set the stage for Vernon Jones as President or VP. The reason he is so formidable is his TRUST and CREDIBILITY, a man of his word.

Vernon is only 60 years old. He has plenty of runway to lead his conservative following over this decade. He is well-liked and trusted by President Trump.

[JayGalt]

This would seem to be an occasion for thinking outside the box. First the recounts and then the strategy.

[Hostage]

> “The only methods for removing a sitting US President from office within the framework of the US Constitution are impeachment (that isn’t happening) and the 25th Amendment (also not happening.”

Those are indeed methods for removal of a legitimate President.

But removing a delegitimate President CAN BE done by Quo Warranto.

CAN BE = Not barred by any law

[Hostage]

Agree it will take time for states to join in but not 8 years. States will be joined together this year is my estimate.

Lindell says by August.

[Yo-Yo]

Rather than engaging in fantasies that waste time and energy, we should be focused on the future, which means demonstrating that fraud is possible, that it actually happened, and that concrete steps are needed to secure all future elections from additional fraud. THAT is the focus that can yield positive change. The rest of this is fantasy.

I warned you about arguing rationally...

[lepton]

States are talking, planning to DECERTIFY Electors.

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Electors jobs are done. Decertifying them now is irrelevant from any legal point of view, as their function is completed.

That is not to say that a showing that the election results were significantly wrong could not have political effect, but the 2020 Presidential election from a legal point of view is done, and Biden has been confirmed by Congress and installed as President.

[lepton]

True. The Constitution provides no way to fix a fraudulent election.

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Well, it does, at the point Congress reviews such - but no means after Congress approves the electoral count and declares a winner.