Posted on 05/19/2021 4:12:15 AM PDT by LuciusDomitiusAutelian
and thus we have Emperor Joe....
That is the way they think.
I come from a line of Jacobite Scots and ex-Brits who participated in the “Fuck You Mad King George” Rebellion.
III%, ‘tis in my DNA.
Hmm...we may be headed for some of the same before too long.
And Malcolm McDowell knew d**n well what the film “Caligula” was all about and enjoyed it. He’s lying to protect his “reputation”.
I work for Caligula.
Well it’s been a while and sources can be flaky at times in this Age of the Great Media Freak-Out, but the version I’ve seen is that Little Boots was wildly popular with the common folk.
His alleged craziness involved the elites of the patrician class - guess what you’d call Rome’s version of Rodeo Drive.
“At some games, he ordered an entire section of the audience to be thrown to the wild beasts because there were no more prisoners to be used and he was bored”
I hope at least he picked those sections that were doing ‘the wave’.
But seriously, if that’s true, one would think the word would get around, and that would put a serious dent in attendance at the games.
As America sinks deeper into decadence, such vile monsters as Caligula, Nero, and Tiberius appear more and more reasonable to those sick with decay. We can expect them to proclaim contemporary vile monsters as heroes.
However those of us capable of resisting the decadence and remaining true to truth see all this monstrosity for exactly what it is. We remain aware of the hideousness of these monsters and the monstrous decadence that empowered them, and we see it all in the monstrous decadence of the 21st century and its adherents.
It's worth reading the article about the Emperor Elagabalus at the same site: https://historyofyesterday.com/elagabalus-8af6ae56e58e
Elagabalus, a transsexual monster, was ridiculed and vilified during the 19 centuries after his reign but resurrected as some sort of hero by those wallowing in the 21st-century decadence of Western Civilisation. The final remark of the article: "Today, Elagabalus is one of the historical icons of the LGBTQ movement."
If present trends continue, expect Caligula, Nero, and Tiberius to be resurrected as some kind of heroes to those sick with decadence.
Then what? Hitler? Stalin? Mao? Pol Pot?
There's nothing new about monsters or decadence. Only the stupid think there is.
Personally I liked John Hurt in I CLAUDIUS from 40 years ago on PBS. Go tit on DVD.
I also read the books by Robert Graves.
I tried to set through the X rated version of that film. It was so bad I fast forwarded through the last of it.
I will take I, CLAUDIUS any time over CALIGULA.
Lol. Sorry Sans-Culotte. I work for a person now that fits the Peter Principle to a T. But I’m not worried about him forcing me to commit suicide..lol.
Yup. A two-bit Mussolini for sure.
You are absolutely correct. He had a good first year. But then he got sick supposedly and the crazy came out. You can only take some of the stories with a grain of salt. Supposedly two Senators visited his bedside and said they would give their own lives to have him back. He miraculously recovered. And then had them commit suicide. He told them the Gods would be offended if they didn’t keep their word. They committed suicide. They tried to truly “cancel” him and remove any and all references to his name and banned any Roman citizen from naming their child Caligula. But he must have been so bad it didn’t matter. Truly infamous.
Elagabalus . Good example. Are you familiar with Hadrian’s tranny lover from Bithinia? While Hadrian is considered one of the better Emperors he was a little to Greek for the Roman sensibilities.
Keep in mind he was a grandson of Mark Antony and probably shared the hatred of the Julians for the patricians and senate.
The senate was slowly strangling the republic with their greedy ways - they owned and farmed most land in Italy with slaves, making it near impossible for plebs to farm, forcing them to rely on the bread and circuses lifestyle of the common Romans.
Caligula’s fondness for yoking patrician elites and senators was one of his redeeming qualities - in my book at least.
A bold defense of Caligula. However, Caligula was a Julio-Claudian himself, son of Germanicus and Aggripina the Elder. Neither have any relation to Marc Antony. Not sure if that is typo.
Totally agree with the 2nd paragraph in your comment. But after he fell ill he was literally insane. And by most’s estimation the worst Roman Emperor of the entire Empire. Though I think there are some other contenders.
I’m not sure what “yoking” means but the needless arbitrary blood and death and sleeping with Senator’s wives at dinners, is not a redeeming quality - in my book.
“Octavia the Younger (Latin: Octavia Minor ; 69/66–11 BC) was the elder sister of the first Roman Emperor, Augustus (known also as Octavian), the half-sister of Octavia the Elder, and the fourth wife of Mark Antony. She was also the great-grandmother of the Emperor Caligula and Empress Agrippina the Younger, maternal grandmother of the Emperor Claudius, and paternal great-grandmother and maternal great-great-grandmother of the Emperor Nero.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octavia_the_Younger
great omitted for brevity sake
Julius was the “Bald Lecher”
Augustus regularly deflowered virgins for sport.
Tiberius’ villa at Capri was debauchery central.
Mark Anthony - married to Octavia while consort of Cleopatra.
Sulla’s butcheries make Caligula seem tame by comparison.
The history of Caligula was written by those who worshipped Brutus, Cato, Cicero, Cassius, Pompey et al.
In Roman times surrendered soldiers were marched “under the yoke” before being paroled.
It was considered a disgrace worse than death.
Something moderns will never understand.
Thanks for the info. I stand corrected. Keeping up with these family trees is insane. Thanks for the clarification. I actually think Sulla was bloody but it was because of Marius’ ego. And he, like Cincinattus, went home to farm after he cleaned up the mess Marius made. You could call George Washington bloody too, but it was for a good reason. While Caligula on the other hand was an insane murderer, considering the life he lived it is no wonder. Glad I found you Hank, I’ve never met anyone who put up a staunch defense of Caligula. I don’t know how to do ping lists yet. But I prefer to be contradicted on my views. The only way you learn. And you got the juevos to buck 2000 years of consensus. Nice to meet you. I intend on posting about Cincinattus this today, time permitting.
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