Posted on 05/06/2021 3:06:54 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
you hit the nail on the head
and the virus mutates every 10 hours
so why bother with an experimental vaccine
from people you do not trust
“I also suspect the possibility that because mRNA vaccines have been a 15 year disaster, that whatever concoction they have come up with is incredibly weak stuff in order to not kill we humans the way they killed rats, rabbits and chimps in all the previous iterations - and hence the need for 2 shots instead of just one.“
I have a bit different view as to why the boosters but hinges on what you describe above. We know that mRNA trials in ‘05 and again in ‘12 failed the animal trials. The failure happened when the subjects were challenged with the natural wild virus.
I have seen nothing showing how they have overcome the deficiencies of the earlier trials. Not even the most adamant supporter of mRNA can point to how the shortcomings were fixed.
I suggest that boosters are needed because the past animal trial disasters are not fixed. And I fear we have set a ton of ticking time bombs. I believe most will have to be on a booster for life program.
The anti-vaxxers on one side of town, the doctors on the other, and the vast majority of us right in the middle. ;D
I did a quick search to find out who was behind the anti-vaccination campaigns. It appears that Andrew Wakefield, Robert Kennedy Jr., Larry Cook and Bernard and Lisa Selz were behind much of it for pecuniary purposes. Followers recruited to help appear to be mostly “wellness” advocates (new age religion, eastern meditation, etc.) speaking from both the political left and right. Socially, most of them are on the left but with some charismatic religion thrown in. Most of them are women, and many of them are younger.
Then the vaccinated will have Covid just like the VAST majority of Americans who got it - mild symptoms with many having no symptoms at all. Geeze, people this is the FR not some lib site.
I have just as many friends who have had Covid than have not. Only one had symptoms that were even close to severe. She is very overweight and was prescribed an asthma steroidal inhaler that helped end her symptoms. She was never close to being hospitalized.
It replicates every 10 hours, that is not the same as mutation and it’s mutation rate is half the speed of influenza.
I did a quick search to see who has their hand up your back like a puppet.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3956915/posts
A couple cherry-pickings from the article.
Let them sink in.
One campaign implies that it could turn people into monkeys.
This builds on a longer, well-documented history of Russia-sponsored disinformation, presumably to destabilize the United States and other democratic countries. The administration of US President Joe Biden has warned Russian media groups to halt their anti-vaccine aggression
Many far-right extremist groups that spread false information about last year’s US presidential election are doing the same about vaccines.
This is the call for a totalitarian purge, using the full force of the US government, based on baldface lies.
“RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA.” “FAR RIGHT EXTREMIST GROUPS THAT SPREAD FALSE INFORMATION.”
They ALWAYS go back to the same playbook. = = = = = =
1.”Nearly one billion COVID-19 vaccine doses have been delivered in less than six months, but anti-vaccine disinformation and targeted attacks on scientists are undermining progress. These threats must be confronted directly, and the authority and expertise of the health community alone aren’t enough to do this.”
2.”Even before the pandemic, I had a front-row seat to all of this. I have co-led efforts to develop vaccines in programmes, including a COVID-19 vaccine currently being tested in India.”
3.”Teams of experts, including me, began meeting regularly online to discuss how best to amplify evidence-based messages, deliver public-service announcements and address concerns around COVID-19 immunization.”
4.”...when I ask for a more direct way to counter anti-vaccine aggression, I’m told, “that’s not our approach; confrontation gives them a platform and oxygen.” In my opinion, this attitude reflects a time when we had dial-up modems. Today, the anti-vaccine empire has hundreds of websites and perhaps 58 million followers on social media. The bad guys are winning, in part because health agencies either underestimate or deny the reach of anti-science forces, and are ill-equipped to counter it.”
5. the US State Department and the UK Foreign Office have described how Russian intelligence organizations seek to discredit Western COVID-19 vaccines. One campaign implies that it could turn people into monkeys. This builds on a longer, well-documented history of Russia-sponsored disinformation, presumably to destabilize the United States and other democratic countries. The administration of US President Joe Biden has warned Russian media groups to halt their anti-vaccine aggression, and announced sanctions tied to disinformation and other behaviour, but we need much more.”
6.”According to the London-based Center for Countering Digital Hate, these are influential groups, not a spontaneous grass-roots movement. Many far-right extremist groups that spread false information about last year’s US presidential election are doing the same about vaccines.”
I posted Moderna’s results on the new booster shots earlier today.
Participants in Phase 2 study were tested for pseudovirus neutralization (PsVN) titers prior to boosting approximately 6 to 8 months after their primary vaccination series. Although titers versus the wild-type SARS-CoV-2 virus remained high, with 37 of 40 participants having detectable titers, titers against the variants of concern (B.1.351 and P.1) were much lower, with approximately half of participants having titers below the assay limit of quantification prior to boosting. Two weeks after receiving either mRNA-1273 or mRNA-1273.351, PsVN titers were boosted in all participants and all variants tested. Following boost, geometric mean titers (GMT) against the wild-type, B.1.351, and P.1 variants increased to levels similar to or higher than the previously reported peak titers against the ancestral (D614G) strain following primary vaccination1.
mRNA-1273.351 appeared more effective at increasing neutralization titers against the B.1.351 variant when compared to mRNA-1273, as evidenced by higher mean GMT levels already at 15 days following booster dose (GMT = 1400 for mRNA-1273.351; GMT = 864 for mRNA-1273). The relative decrease in neutralizing titers between the wild-type (D614G) and B.1.351 assays also improved with mRNA-1273.351 booster, from a 7.7-fold difference prior to boost to a 2.6-fold difference 15 days after boost, suggesting a potentially more balanced immune response against the tested variants.
Safety and tolerability profiles following third dose booster injections of 50 µg of mRNA-1273 or mRNA-1273.351 were generally comparable to those observed after the second dose of mRNA-1273 in the previously reported Phase 2 and Phase 3 studies. A review of solicited adverse events indicated that the vaccine boosters were generally well tolerated. The majority of adverse events were mild or moderate in severity. The frequency of any Grade 3 solicited local or systemic adverse events was 15% after the third dose of mRNA-1273 and 10.5% after the third dose of mRNA-1273.351.
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The mRNA shot provides temporary antibodies; they wane. And the antibodies are just to the Wild type variant. It has much less effectiveness against some of the other variants and that will continue with newer variants, too. As I have posted before this was never going to provide long term immunity. It isn’t a sterilizing immunity; it does not prevent infection.
“News reports that Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine had an efficacy of over 90% sparked hopes that herd immunity—and ultimately the end of the current pandemic—was not only achievable but closer than many people had imagined1 This level of efficacy was not only surprising but placed the vaccine alongside those used to prevent once-dreaded diseases like measles, rubella, chickenpox, and polio.2”
“As game-changing as the Pfizer vaccine (and Moderna’s equally effective mRNA-1273 vaccine) may be in affording protection against the COVID-19 illness, the results do not reflect complete “sterilizing immunity.”
“This is the type of immunity that completely prevents a disease-causing pathogen like COVID-19 from establishing an infection. Sterilizing immunity differs from effective immunity in that the latter can prevent illness but still lead to asymptomatic infection.”
https://www.verywellhealth.com/covid-19-vaccines-and-sterilizing-immunity-5092148
Plandemic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikki_Willis
Judy Mikovits
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judy_Ann_Mikovits
Wow. You’ve really swallowed the “fact checkers” facts as telling the story. No curiosity about digging through to what the widely censored data and study-based information from thousands of medical and scientific experts shows from the other side?
One of my favorites. ;D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_misinformation#Simpsons_prediction
“Simpsons prediction
Claims that The Simpsons had predicted the COVID-19 pandemic in 1993, accompanied by a doctored screenshot from the show (where the text “Corona Virus” was layered over the original text “Apocalypse Meow”, without blocking it from view), were later found to be false. The claim had been widely spread on social media.[367][368]
My favorite miracle cure. ;D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_misinformation#Cow_dung_and_urine
Cow dung and urine
Indian political activist Swami Chakrapani and Member of the Legislative Assembly Suman Haripriya claimed that drinking cow urine and applying cow dung on the body can cure COVID-19.[334][335] WHO’s chief scientist Soumya Swaminathan criticised politicians incautiously spreading such misinformation without an evidence base.[336]
We're on to you trolls now.
4."...when I ask for a more direct way to counter anti-vaccine aggression, I’m told, “that’s not our approach; confrontation gives them a platform and oxygen.” In my opinion, this attitude reflects a time when we had dial-up modems. Today, the anti-vaccine empire has hundreds of websites and perhaps 58 million followers on social media. The bad guys are winning, in part because health agencies either underestimate or deny the reach of anti-science forces, and are ill-equipped to counter it."
5. the US State Department and the UK Foreign Office have described how Russian intelligence organizations seek to discredit Western COVID-19 vaccines. One campaign implies that it could turn people into monkeys. This builds on a longer, well-documented history of Russia-sponsored disinformation, presumably to destabilize the United States and other democratic countries. The administration of US President Joe Biden has warned Russian media groups to halt their anti-vaccine aggression, and announced sanctions tied to disinformation and other behaviour, but we need much more."
6."According to the London-based Center for Countering Digital Hate, these are influential groups, not a spontaneous grass-roots movement. Many far-right extremist groups that spread false information about last year’s US presidential election are doing the same about vaccines."
In fact, since the NEED IN INDIA IS SO DIRE™, why are you posting at all, instead of saving lives over there?
Troll.
Speaking of ads....I thought drugs/shots were required to have full FDA approval before they could run ads.
I wonder how these groups are getting around that?
There is that fetal cell line problem, plus catching and recovering the virus leaves me immune. Or at least we were all taught this in school back in the 50’s 60’s and 70’s. To say nothing of reporting for years, and doctors telling us we were “safe” from it now.
CV-19 is a virus and natural immunity will be the only thing to beat it, the same way we beat the flu every year. Good nutrition, cleanliness and trust in Our Father in Heaven.
And we all know we haven't learned anything in the last 40 years.
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