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To: circlecity

One can easily make hits out to 50 yards with one.


7 posted on 04/19/2021 8:43:30 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: riverrunner

So something to augment the gap between your 1911 and rifle?


8 posted on 04/19/2021 8:54:54 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: riverrunner
“One can easily make hits out to 50 yards with one.”

I don’t ever foresee a situation where I would need to shoot 50 yards with a concealed carry piece. You could just run for cover. If I ever have to use it for real I would be point shooting at a pretty close distance. An optic just seems like something else to catch or snag when you need it most. For me, it seems more something for hunters. But everyone needs to go with what works best for them.

17 posted on 04/19/2021 9:14:07 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: riverrunner

“One can easily make hits out to 50 yards with one.”

Why?

When I went to Marine Corps Force Battalion School we only used the Mossberg 590 and at the time the .451911A1 - the school taught a modified Weaver, and we got a lot of trigger time. One thing that was stressed was that most pistol fights take place within 10 feet so we practiced at 10 feet and at less than 10 feet. The second thing they taught us is that the purpose of a pistol is to shoot your way to your shotgun, or rifle but this particular school which was designed for the embassy guard staff were only using pistols and shotguns because it was all meant to be indoor or compound scenarios. We also did a bit of bus and passenger aircraft simulations.

I wanted to verify that 10 foot information so I went to the internet and here’s what I found:

[WWW] “Tom Givens, most gunfights involving civilians and felons takes place at a distance of approximately three to five yards, approximately three and one-half rounds are fired, and no further shooting takes place after approximately three seconds.”

I don’t know Tom Givens. I hear that he’s credentialed and published (which is noteworthy for validation) as far as firearms training and formal instruction goes. And 3 to 5 yards is well within the ballpark of 10 feet so....

I’ll trust the gunny with what he stated,
“10 ft.”

I still workout with pistol using the 10ft rule in mind and I also rehearse shooting from an uphill position as if somebody was coming up a stairwell. Which is kind of a difficult shot when performed quickly and in haste with a pistol.

Also if you keep that 10 foot rule in mind or the 3 to 5 yards, whichever... it might even open up some other CCW choices.


18 posted on 04/19/2021 9:19:35 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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