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Kelly Loeffler’s Young Staffer Was Murdered
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Posted on 03/13/2021 4:37:55 AM PST by gaggs

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To: semimojo
So why no charges?

Wait, whut? Your question does not even make sense. Why would *CORRUPT* election officials be charged when everyone involved wanted Trump out?

Did you sleep during the four years of *RUSSIAN COLLUSION HOAX*? (No charges filed.) Did you miss the fact that no charges were filed against any of the people burning cars and rioting during Trump's inauguration? Did you miss all the charges that weren't filed against ANTIFA and BLM over the Arsons, riots, assaults, robberies, murders.

Did you notice how Roger Stone had half a dozen agents arresting him with guns drawn over a fake crime while Hillary was hardly bothered by anyone for serious corruption and crimes?

WTF is wrong with you? Have you been sleeping under a rock for the last decade?

I can give you dozens if not hundreds or even thousands of examples of Democrats and their stooges never getting charged with anything for serious criminal acts and behavior.

So what does "charges" have to do with anything? They are filing "charges" against about 400 people in Washington DC on Jan 6, and they are trying to throw the book at them.

"Charges" don't mean sh*t when you have a corrupt prosecuting system, which seems to be the case in most of these places.

I haven't seen anyone present evidence of fraud.

Then you shouldn't be engaging in discussions on this forum. People here actually keep up with the news. They do not live their lives in a cave where daylight never reaches. The evidence of fraud is so massive it beggars the mind in contemplating the scope of it.

You are so massively out of touch that i'm annoyed I even bothered to try and discuss something with you. I prefer to converse with people who actually bother to keep up with news and world events.

Statistical anomalies aren't evidence of fraud, by the way.

Who the f*** do you think you are trying to *DICTATE* to the rest of us what is and what is not evidence of fraud?

When the statistical anomalies are so massive, they are d@mn sure evidence of fraud.

If anyone thinks Joe Biden got massively more votes than Barack Obama, but *ONLY* in those five corrupt cities I mentioned, then that person is either a liar, is deluded or is a fool.

It's fraud on the face of it.

Now i'm starting to wonder about you. Your steadfast insistence on allowing the tech tyranny to suppress speech I have always explained away as naive foolishness that might someday be modified when you finally wake up, but to see you here trying to argue there is no evidence of fraud when there have been countless articles posted here at Free Republic on the topic has me now wondering whether you could possibly be that misguided or blind, or are instead some sort of agent provocateur.

Have you even bothered to read any of the Free Republic articles about the fraud?

121 posted on 03/13/2021 2:49:47 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: semimojo

“I haven’t seen anyone present evidence of fraud.”

Look another believer in the magical power of ChiCom Joe to draw minority votes at all time records, more than even Obama.

I’ve seen plenty of evidence of voter fraud. Puh-Lenty.

I’ve also testified in a voter fraud case eventually leading to first ever convictions.


122 posted on 03/13/2021 3:30:27 PM PST by romanesq (TRUSTY THE PLAN! ChiCom Joe is the Plan? Que magnificent! 👹)
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To: gaggs

Looking at the first 3 posts, We got GOP Establishment trolling.


123 posted on 03/13/2021 4:14:10 PM PST by Democrats hate too much
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To: DiogenesLamp
Why would *CORRUPT* election officials be charged when everyone involved wanted Trump out?

You really don't think there's one ambitious DA in one Trump friendly district in any state who wouldn't jump at the chance to charge Democratic voter fraud?

The evidence of fraud is so massive it beggars the mind in contemplating the scope of it.

You say that but when it came down to it Trump's team wouldn't allege it even in civil court.

Who the f*** do you think you are trying to *DICTATE* to the rest of us what is and what is not evidence of fraud?

I'm not dictating anything, just pointing out that statistical anomalies alone aren't evidence that will pass scrutiny in any court. Plus a lot of the statistical analysis I've seen has been mighty sketchy.

If anyone thinks Joe Biden got massively more votes than Barack Obama, but *ONLY* in those five corrupt cities...

Now I'll admit that's a claim I haven't seen before. Do you have a link? Biden got over 1M more votes in LA than Obama did in 2008. I didn't see LA in your list of 5.

Have you even bothered to read any of the Free Republic articles about the fraud?

Most of them and I've found them wanting. I'm happy to reconsider if you point me to what you think is the most compelling evidence of fraud.

124 posted on 03/13/2021 4:43:28 PM PST by semimojo
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To: ScubaDiver

Your examples are accidents involving high speed crashes where the vehicle is suddenly stopped/crushed by meeting another vehicle or solid obstacle. I dont see how that is like this accident? The damage to Deal’s vehicle is not consistent with a sudden high speed crash, but a fiery explosion.

I would like to see the official or even the unofficial accident report in this suspiciously bizarre crash. Very little information was released officially, and the lead investigator is suddenly dead two weeks later. How convenient.

Witnesses report a large explosion that was heard as far as the Lowe’s parking lot almost a mile away!

Also according to one of the several eye witness accounts

“Jim Lahey December 30, 2020 - 11:20 pm

The engine is gone, the entire front suspension is gone, the front quarter-panels are gone, The radiator is gone. The front bumper support is gone. The passenger side doors were blown yards away it looks like…. the driver door was blown forward the firewall.

*****Even if you took full gas tanks of both vehicles, placed them under the engine of the jeep and ignited both of them at the same time with an electrical spark it would not do this kind of damage. The fuel would disperse far too quickly being ignited out of a plastic fuel tank*****

I don’t think people understand how much force would be required to rip the engine off of the transmission, off of the engine mounts and out of the vehicle far enough to not be visible in this picture… a FIVE HUNDRED PLUS POUND FULLY-DRESSED ENGINE ATTACHED WITH GRADE 10.9 AUTOMOTIVE BOLTS.”

source: https://www.johnscreekpost.com/bizarre-explosion-crash-in-georgia-kills-harrison-deal


125 posted on 03/14/2021 9:23:37 PM PDT by Swirl
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To: nevergore

Explain the physics of the accident in detail.
Apparently the engine block ended up 70 feet from the rest of the car.

Give me a mechanism for that which is consistent with the public explanation of the crash, and which has been seen and replicated in other car wrecks.


126 posted on 03/14/2021 11:31:12 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: semimojo
And yet Lon Horiuchi got promoted after blowing Vicki Weaver's head off while she was holding her baby in her arms.

And nothing has been done about the mass murder of the country music concert fans in Vegas a few years back. Even the gun grabbers don't cite that incident.

127 posted on 03/14/2021 11:32:44 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Swirl
"The damage to Deal’s vehicle is not consistent with a sudden high speed...'

Wut?

I-16 is a divided highway. People travel on divided highway at HIGHWAY SPEEDS. Deal's vehicle ran into the back of a flat-bed truck carrying steel. Two other vehicles were involved, including another semi-trailer. This stretch of highway is notorious for high-speed accidents. Just yesterday on the same highway just down the road a dozen or so miles, there was another multi-vehicle fatal accident that involved a - wait for it - truck, cars and an EXPLOSION...

https://www.wjcl.com/article/traffic-alert-part-of-i-16-closed-following-accident-in-bulloch-county/35832378#

...look at those pictures. That had to be a 'bomb' right because vehicular highway accidents never end in a fiery explosions, according to you. Was this all part of the Harrison Deal murder conspiracy, too?

128 posted on 03/15/2021 6:20:16 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Read the report (s)....it’s public record....

Do your homework instead of expecting others to do it for you......

Show all of us what supports your unsubstantiated opinion......


129 posted on 03/15/2021 6:43:53 AM PDT by nevergore (I have a terrible rash on my covfefe....)
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To: ScubaDiver

Where’s the police/GBI accident investigation report? Where are the interviews with those that were in the other vehicles involved in the accident? I want answers to a suspicious accident.

Your example is for a high impact crash. The unofficial public testimonies for the Deal Crash do not suggest this. Public witnesses statements have included a wrecker crew, who must have seen many kinds of accidents.


130 posted on 03/15/2021 8:06:29 AM PDT by Swirl
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To: Swirl
Conspiracy theorists are so laughably pedantic. They're also surprisingly unfamiliar with how pretty basic laws work.

In Georgia (and many states), traffic accident reports are only available to interested parties, law enforcement, government agencies, or....

How do I obtain a traffic crash report?

O.C.G.A.: § 50-18-72. When public disclosure not required

(I) Is gathering information as a representative of a news media organization; provided, however, that such representative submits a statement affirming that the use of such accident report is in compliance with Code Section 33-24-53. Any person who knowingly makes a false statement in requesting such accident report shall be guilty of a violation of Code Section 16-10-20;

(J) Is conducting research in the public interest for such purposes as accident prevention, prevention of injuries or damages in accidents, determination of fault in an accident or accidents, or other similar purposes; provided, however, that this subparagraph shall apply only to accident reports on accidents that occurred more than 60 days prior to the request and which shall have the name, street address, telephone number, and driver's license number redacted; or

So, absent a civil or criminal trial where the traffic report is entered into evidence or an inquiry by a bona fide news agency using the report under the established guidelines, the traffic accident report will never be seen, publicly.

No one thinks this is a 'suspicious accident' other than people who are looking to find suspicious activity everywhere. Is the 4-car, fatal fiery accident on the same stretch of road yesterday also 'suspicious' to you? Where's that traffic report?

'The unofficial public testimonies for the Deal Crash do not suggest this. Public witnesses statements have included a wrecker crew, who must have seen many kinds of accidents.

Please, post a link to a reputable news source that has an on-the-record interview with eyewitnesses and those eyewitnesses describe a 'low speed' collision. I'm interested to see how a collision on a divided highway with a 65-mph speed limit ISN'T going to be a high-speed crash.

131 posted on 03/15/2021 8:36:52 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: ScubaDiver

In three of your cases, the car ran into a pole or a tree — meaning the engine compartment was significantly deformed by the crash...which would be the mechanism for severing the engine and/or its mounts from the chassis.
In the 4th case, the car was t-boned by another car, traveling at a high rate of speed.

Refresh my memory; was the Georgia car rear-ended?


132 posted on 03/15/2021 9:02:22 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: ScubaDiver; nevergore

Hey nevergore, one of your fellow trolls is saying the traffic accident report is NOT public record.

For the nonce, what did the victim’s car collide with?
What was the velocity relative to the thing it collided with?

E.g. if he were rear-ended, or rear-ended another vehicle, both the magnitude and direction, of each of their velocity vectors matters, a lot.

Earlier in the thread someone posted 4 accidents where the engine was ripped from the car. 3 of them involved a car at high speed hitting a pole or tree (stationary) and the last was a car getting t-boned at high speed.

If the Georgia case were the victim’s car rear-ending another vehicle moving down the roadway, or getting rear-ended at speed, then physics of the crash are quite different.


133 posted on 03/15/2021 9:10:15 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Harrison Deal’s car ran into the back end of a flat-bed truck carrying a load of steel. As I understand it, the collision was catastrophic, sending sections of the car into at least one other vehicle.

It wasn’t entirely clear at the time initial reports came out if Deal’s car had struck/swiped another car before hitting the truck or what the speed differential was between Deal’s car and the truck. There were a total of four vehicles involved with a number of very serious injuries reported.

Like many other other fatal accident, subsequent reporting just isn’t available because the media doesn’t care about it beyond the ‘if it bleeds, it leads’ aspect of the initial fatality. As I said to the other commenter, absent someone being arrested and tried for vehicular manslaughter (which seems unlikely as it was Deal who was probably the guilty party) or a civil suit, further reporting will likely not be done. The media just doesn’t care...exactly like how further reporting won’t be done on the fatal accident on the same road a couple days ago.


134 posted on 03/15/2021 9:17:37 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Hey Grey Whiskers,

Don’t have fellow trolls, but you wouldn’t know that since I’ve only been here since 1999.......

It’s an amazing thing to watch how all conspiracy theorists behave in the same manner.....

Little or no facts and when called on it, resort to name-calling or attempted character assassination of the person who called them out......

Kinda funny don’t you think?


135 posted on 03/15/2021 12:05:50 PM PDT by nevergore (I have a terrible rash on my covfefe....)
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To: BrexitBen
Yet, as incredible as it may seem, an Alzheimer’s victim was “ elected “ president, and a mindless whore will soon be taking his place. Why does anyone still question that a broad, socialist conspiracy, with many tentacles, had to be employed to accomplish this ?

And people still question. We were brought up thinking we had the best, most decent government in the world. Maybe we did at some point.

136 posted on 03/15/2021 12:11:30 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: JonPreston

“Sidney Powell’s 15 minutes of fame has expired.”
*******************************************
Long ago. She’s degenerating into an attention whore. Come on, Sidney, you’re better than this.


137 posted on 03/15/2021 12:21:32 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: nevergore
No, it's not funny at all; particularly as a disproportionate share of trolls pull out the "Class of '98" or "Class of '99" card *first* *thing*.

Your projection is breathtaking.

Trolls operate in the same manner; and I love your soi-boi deniable swipe of subtly implying I'm a conspiracy theorist without saying it -- that way, if I say nothing, "silence implies assent" but if I challenge it, "why, you weren't talking about me, so I must have a guilty conscience to have brought it up."

And little or no facts, would be you.

You were the one who lied through your teeth saying that the accident report was publicly available, and I should do my homework, when it turns out public dissemination of the report is illegal under Georgia law.

What do you do except sow dissension on conservative message boards?

138 posted on 03/15/2021 1:20:31 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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