Sweden Reports Fewer Deaths in 2020 Than 2012 — After Rejecting Globalist Consensus on COVID-19 Policy

Big League Politics ^ | March 10, 2021 | Shane Trejo

[CheshireTheCat]

...Hemström analyzed the death rates in Sweden going back to 1900 to put the COVID-19 pandemic in its proper context.

“From 1990 and onwards we see a clear decrease in mortality, fewer dead per capita. And then 2020 we see a spike,” he said – noting that the increase in deaths only put Sweden back to 2012 numbers.

Hemström said that there were “many more deaths in 1918 than 2020,” with regards to the deadly Spanish flu, “especially in proportion to the population, which was millions fewer in 1918.”

The reporters concluded that the data shows “the level of excess mortality is the same as it was a decade ago, and in a longer perspective mankind has suffered worse pandemics than the one we are in now.”...

[CheshireTheCat]

It's almost as if there is a rising population of elderly people in some countries because more people live to advanced age and in some years there is a larger cohort of people who reach an advanced age because of a baby boom that took place years ago.

Furthermore, it's almost as if these people, while they live a long time, at some point get weak because they are getting even older. And then, when a bad flu comes along, well...

[nickcarraway]

Why are they singling out 2012 as a year?

[Wuli]

Yes, the proper measure of pandemics is not the “pandemic virus related deaths” compared to other deaths, but total deaths during the pandemic period versus some other period.

We know with all the missing “flu” cases and deaths this past year, plus all the lock down related deaths, 2020-21 may not have demonstrated a greater number of total U.S. deaths than some past time periods. I think the official totals may underestimate certain deaths, among them the additional lock down related deaths.

[CheshireTheCat]

Because in that year, the number deaths in Sweden either surpassed or roughly equaled the number of deaths in 2020.

Generally-speaking, populations of countries increase each year due to births or immigration exceeding deaths.

Theoretically, there can be a decline in a given year due to deaths outnumbering births. That can be because something kills people or there was just a large number of older people dying because of a baby boom in a particular period years ago and a birth dearth in other years.

[nickcarraway]

But picking on particular year randomly seams like cherry picking.

[Jan_Sobieski]

It’s not COVID-19. It’s COVID-1984. Thinking people know what is coming next...

[CheshireTheCat]

I don’t think 2012 is a random pick.

I think what the Swedish demographer is saying is that back in 2012 there was virtually the same number of deaths, either in raw numbers or per capita, it isn’t fully clear, as there were in 2020. I think he was just pointing to the most recent year in which the numbers were about the same and is saying there wasn’t a phenomenal amount of death in 2020 because the last time there was the same amount of death wasn’t even a generation ago.

If he had had to go back to, say, 1930 or something to point to the same number of deaths, he would have. But apparently he did not have to go back that far.

[Valpal1]

Exactly, and we are sacrificing the well being of the young and their economic futures for people with one foot in the grave.

Debt for our grandchildren and great grandchildren to pay off when we’re gone.

Cultural and societal suicide; sacrificing the young for the old.

[bigbob]

they later unrejected it, saying their method had failed

[eyeamok]

In other words, the death rate from what is referred to as COVID, is about the same as a medium Flu Season.

[SmokingJoe]

Why not?
And it’s not cherry picking either.

[Dr. Franklin]

So Sweden is a nation of 10.18 million people. Thus 7000 additional deaths was the loss of 0.0006876227897, or less than .07 percent of the population. The U.S. is a nation with an estimated population of 329,484,123 in 2020. If the same percentage holds true as in Sweden, the U.S. lost an additional 226,561 people due to Covid. Someone please check my math.

[Sergio]

bkmk

[CheshireTheCat]

Your math seems fine.

So basically we had more than twice as many additional deaths as Sweden despite some strict lockdowns in many states, or perhaps because of them.

Or we count ‘rona virus deaths differently.

Or our population is fatter.

It’s always a good ideas with fat people to encourage them to stay insides versus getting outside and exercising.

[Dr. Franklin]

So basically we had more than twice as many additional deaths as Sweden despite some strict lockdowns in many states, or perhaps because of them. Or we count ‘rona virus deaths differently. Or our population is fatter. It’s always a good ideas with fat people to encourage them to stay insides versus getting outside and exercising.

It's been hard to get a serious statistical breakdown of the U.S. Covid deaths by age, etc. I suspect that deaths were overstated, particularly among the elderly in nursing homes, and that has resulted in problems for Dem govs like Cuomo and Whitmer. The U.S. medical establishment didn't accept treatments like hydrochloroquine and Ivermectin that have proved so effective in the "developing world". More like it was predetermined that Covid couldn't be treatable so that the vaxes would get emergency use approval, and Big Pharma would get fat contracts with the government.

If this gets any media coverage in the U.S., it will be explained away as proof of our "racist" health care system, or Trump's fault for killing the ObamamCare penalty leaving more Americans without health insurance. You know, the usual BS.