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To: Jacquerie

Why do you think the Senate would survive any type of convention that tinkers with the constitution?

Would not the courts mandate that delegates be ‘representative of the people’ according to their respective state?

If the delegates were ‘representative of the people’, would they not quickly forego state boundaries and align with their faction?

If the factions are formed, would states not cease to exist?

If the states cease to exist, why would a Senate be necessary?

The House of Representatives can quickly become a Parliament, and the Speaker of the House becomes de facto Prime Minister.


6 posted on 03/02/2021 2:56:38 PM PST by beancounter13
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To: beancounter13

Yikes. The answer to my question is “no.”


7 posted on 03/02/2021 3:03:58 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: beancounter13
Would not the courts mandate that delegates be ‘representative of the people’ according to their respective state?

This particular question doesn't make sense because the courts could not rule that an amendment to the Constitution is unconstitutional as it would be by definition constitutional. Of course these days I wouldn't put it beyond the realm of possibility with the nonsense rulings we've been seeing lately.

9 posted on 03/02/2021 3:19:25 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: beancounter13

“Why do you think the Senate would survive any type of convention that tinkers with the constitution?”


Where do you see that in Article V?

“Article V
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.”

The output can only be proposed amendments, nothing else. And each proposed amendment must then be ratified by 38(!) States to take effect.

It’s not a “Constitutional Convention,” or anything else. Just a meetingof states to propose ammendments. Because Congress won’t.


31 posted on 03/02/2021 7:51:57 PM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now!)
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