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To: Magnum44

A fair point, but by “boring,” I meant no-frills, squared off, ugly, I don’t know how to really quantify it other than my competition-grade 1911 is like driving a Shelby mustang and my glock is more like a honda accord


42 posted on 02/22/2021 9:36:54 AM PST by This_Dude
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To: This_Dude

As an Instructor/Trainer, the subject of best gun comes up all the time amongst both students and other instructors, and the .45 vs 9mm debate rages on. While I dont push anyone towards any particular product, if you ask, I will say that I put the G19 in the top three, with the 1911 also in that group.

That said, the Glock, like Glock copies by other makers, is the closest thing to a revolver (point and click) as one can get. The 1911, is a step more complex, having to incorporate the thumb safety into your training. Its funny how many times I see good shooter, under time pressure or stress training, fail to thumb the safety off on their carry 1911, and have to lose seconds figuring out why the trigger seems so heavy. There are even more complex guns, like the Beretta, which require learning the DA/SA aspects, as well (and I would never recommend the M-9 for defense, terrible design for defensive shooter or dirty environment).

Your Shelby/1911 analogy may be appropriate, but there are faster cars out today than the Shelby. And ‘firstest with the mostest’ is a quality in and of itself. :)

PS - Today, I would add caliber as another factor into ‘best’ gun. But not in the traditional sense of power/penetration. I think today you need at least three calibers (9mm, 40S&W, and 45) just so an ammo famine in one caliber doesnt leave you without options of other more available ammo.


44 posted on 02/22/2021 10:07:25 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: This_Dude
Reliability is boring. I just point the gun and pull the trigger and it goes bang and hits what I'm aiming at round after round after rounnd regardless of whether I have cleaned it recently, regardless if it has been oiled, regardless if it has been buried in the back yard for 2 years or dropped out of an airplane, regardless of the ammo I have in it, etc. Boooring. Snore.
50 posted on 02/22/2021 4:50:03 PM PST by RC one (When a bunch of commies start telling you that you don't need an AR15, you really need an AR15)
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To: This_Dude

51 posted on 02/22/2021 8:16:22 PM PST by gdc61 (LOL not.)
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