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To: MAAG; MHGinTN

The proof that the kingdom of heaven is already among us, ie that the pre tribulation rapture point of view is false is seen in such statements as “the Kingdom of God is at hand” (Mk 1:15), it “has already come upon you” (Mt 12:28), it is “in the midst of you” (Lk 17:21)

Luke 17:20–21 tells us that, “being asked by the Pharisees when the Kingdom of God was coming, he answered them, ‘The Kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed [by neutral observers], nor will they say, “Lo, here it is!” or “There!” for behold, the Kingdom of God is in the midst of you.’”

The Messiah and His Kingdom were foretold to be coming during the fourth kingdom of the vision, when Rome ruled over Jerusalem. During that time, Christ would set up His Kingdom, which would grow to encompass the entire world and last forever. This dovetails with the teaching of Jesus. “The Kingdom of Heaven is like a grain of mustard seed which a man took and sowed in his field; it is the smallest of all seeds, but when it has grown it is the greatest of shrubs and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and make nests in its branches” (Matt. 13:31–32).


10 posted on 02/18/2021 11:09:31 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos
You err ... boldly. You are probably a big fan of Augustine's 'City of God'.

Wherever the King is there is the Kingdom. Jesus is in Heaven, now. He will be coming back to usjer in The Kingdom on the Earth, but that is a future event receded by several signs and fulfilled prophecies not yet seen.

The principle of the imminent return to gather the Body fo Christ Believers to Himself and return to the Father's House where JESUS has been preparing a plaxce for us is a solid teaching of the New Testament. Your false belief discard the principle of imminence, as satan wants it discarded.

I am anticipating the great Departure with the appearing of Jesus in the air (not onto the mount of olives). Your belief system is looking forward to the rise of the antichrist, during the Tribulation. No sale

11 posted on 02/18/2021 12:07:34 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Cronos
The proof that the kingdom of heaven is already among us

The proof is all around you, death and destruction. Where is the One who rules with a rod of iron.

Zechariah 12:10 New American Standard Bible (NASB)

10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem [a]the Spirit of grace and of pleading, so that they will look at Me whom they pierced;
and they will mourn for Him, like one mourning for an only son, and they will weep bitterly over Him like the bitter weeping over a firstborn.

Until the Nation of Israel(house of David) calls out to the Lord, the world will continue on as it has since the fall, and is until now.

Genesis 3:17-19 New American Standard Bible (NASB)

17 Then to Adam He said, “Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat from it’;

Cursed is the ground because of you;
With [a]hard labor you shall eat from it
All the days of your life.

18 Both thorns and thistles it shall grow for you;
Yet you shall eat the [b]plants of the field;

19 By the sweat of your face
You shall eat bread,
Until you return to the ground,
Because from it you were taken;
For you are dust,
And to dust you shall return.”

12 posted on 02/18/2021 12:34:24 PM PST by MAAG (Tetelestai, paid in full. You are as righteous as God is. Double jeopardy is forbidden.)
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