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Follow the Science? The Greenest Energy Isn't Even Being Considered
Red State ^ | 02/16/2021 | Brandon Morse

Posted on 02/16/2021 11:16:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 02/16/2021 11:16:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I thought the greenest energy would be the cucumber battery, but no.


2 posted on 02/16/2021 11:18:48 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: SeekAndFind

Whenever I see an article about some state or country trying to ban petroleum powered cars in favor of electric cars at some future date, I always say the same thing: Apparently they are planning on building a bunch of nuclear power plants.

And to be fair, even a lot of your old die hard anti nuke people are now in favor of it. just search youtube for “nuclear” and Ted Talk.


3 posted on 02/16/2021 11:19:54 AM PST by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Free energy from the SUN and WIND...Go Green all the Way!!!


4 posted on 02/16/2021 11:24:14 AM PST by HippyLoggerBiker (Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Nuclear energy power generation has a minor flaw in relation to providing energy. They are constant output generators. You need to supplement them with NatGas, coal, etc...to meet sudden excess demand during cold snaps or very hot weather conditions where there is sudden widespread demand.
Green Energy is for fools. As is forcing the entire USA to go EV. No one with an ounce of sense doesn’t realize this. But, if you’re a Lib none of that matters. The only thing that matters is your liberal virtue signaling.


5 posted on 02/16/2021 11:25:28 AM PST by ocrp1982
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To: SeekAndFind

“The Greenest Energy Isn’t Even Being Considered”

That’s because it is not about saving the planet. It’s about bankrupting America so that we will accept Communism. Recall Hillary Clinton wrote her college thesis on Saul Alinsky. Alinsky wrote a book which he dedicated to Satan. In it he said the idea was to debase the currency so that it was worthless. The reason was American were too rich to accept communism. Once we were all equally poor we would embrace communism. (The university refused to release her paper.)

Thus Obama made huge “investments” in battery tech companies, solar and wind. All of those investments tanked, cost the taxpayer billions. Incidentally, those companies made huge donations to the Democratic party after they got funding. The officers and backers got huge bonuses. The companies are all gone now, or bought by the Chinese at bargain prices.

Wind power and solar power for a nation are insanely bad investments. When there’s no wind or no sun, there’s no energy. But natural gas is a byproduct of fracking and it is largely being burned off because transporting it is too expensive. It is very clean, yet it is banned for new construction of California homes. Why? See above.


6 posted on 02/16/2021 11:26:20 AM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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Here’s The Science To Answer Man Made Climate

EARTH TO COOL DOWN WARNS GEO SCIENTIST

Scientific reports from Canada and Greenland has indicated that the the shrinking arctic ice sheets have begun to replace themselves rapidly. Strongly suggesting the earth instead of warming, is beginning to cool down. It is still not known (or proven) if this is the result because of the reduced rate of sun spot activity.

Canadian geo scientist Professor R. Timothy Patterson of Carelton University is urging a go-slow on the rush for governments to “Play God” with global warming legislative blaming this on CO2 (carbon dioxide) discharges. Legislating corrections attempting to control a natural cyclic occurrence caused by; sun spots, the magnetic solar wind, and cyclic earth magnetic polarity reversal, among other natural occurrences including volcanism, meteors etc. Probably plays a very significant role in climate change. Yet ignorantly blaming man made CO2 emissions for climatic change. which is becoming a rapidly discredited and minuscule cause of global warming in his article published by Canada’s Financial Post. 6/20/07

Patterson was selected by the Canadian government to study the fluctuations in certain types of fish populations.
While doing so the Canadian Geo-Scientist found a correlation when certain species of fish had high population and then drastic drop offs. He discovered these fluctuations corresponded with sun spot activity and solar radiation vs cosmic activity. When earth cooling occurred.

Studying deep fjords along the Western Canadian coast where deep pools of low oxidation water exist. The Patterson study reached deep into the earths recent past of 4000 years of undisturbed sediments. Patterson found that when aquatic activity was highest and lowest in those collected sediments having high aquatic content had matched known solar protection when the magnetic wind was highest, and dropped off when earth magnetic fields activities were lowest.Thus causing cosmic radiation to intensify.

Then because the earth became unprotected by its magnetic fields from galactic cosmic activity. Patterson cites several accepted theories which concludes this then created cloud activity during such periods which increased drastically. Thus cooling earth and bringing in its ice ages.

In his presentation here is a professor urging more scientific study (like Pope Benedict)is needed. That politicians including Al Gore, of The Earth Is Flat Society, don’t know what the hell they’re talking about. Strongly suggesting that the global warming may be caused by exhaling politicos rather than serious scientific examination.

Patterson seems to be saying before Canadians start investing in palm trees they should be considering better parkas because what goes up must come down and the Mexicans better move over for a reverse population flow. The 2007story was featured in The Drudge Report, and World Net Daily, which were linked in The US Mat’s last page. But lost due to source link changes .

Earth Axis tilts slightly away from sun
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3877075/posts

Earth Enters Unknown as Magnetic North Pole Continues Push Toward Russia, Crosses Greenwich Meridian
Sputniknews.com ^ | 15:08 13.12.2019 (updated 15:42 13.12.2019) | Staff
posted in the Free Republic Aggregate conservative news site
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3800727/posts
Posted on 12/13/2019, 4:22:18 PM by Red Badger

Earlier this year, US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and the British Geological Survey (BGS) were forced to update the World Magnetic Model a year ahead of schedule due to the speed with which the magnetic north pole is shifting out of the Canadian Arctic and toward Russia’s Siberia.

Deep solar minimum on the verge of an historic milestone
wattsupwiththat.com ^ | December 12, 2019 | by Paul Dorian

Posted on 12/13/2019, 3:17:04 PM by Red Badger Posted in the Free Republic aggregate news site http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3800719/posts

Solar minimum is a normal part of the 11-year sunspot cycle, but the last one and the current one have been far deeper than most. One of the consequences of a solar minimum is a reduction of solar storms and another is the intensification of cosmic rays. The just ended solar cycle 24 turned out to be one of the weakest in more than a century – continuing a weakening trend that began in the 1980’s – and, if the latest forecasts are correct, the next solar cycle will be the weakest in more than 200 years.

One of the natural impacts of decreasing solar activity is the weakening of the ambient solar wind and its magnetic field which, in turn, allows more and more cosmic rays to penetrate the solar system. Galactic cosmic rays are high-energy particles originating from outside the solar system that can impact the Earth’s atmosphere. Our first line of defense from cosmic rays comes from the sun as its magnetic field and the solar wind combine to create a ‘shield’ that fends off cosmic rays attempting to enter the solar system. The shielding action of the sun is strongest during solar maximum and weakest during solar minimum with the weakening magnetic field and solar wind. The intensity of cosmic rays varies globally by about 15% over a solar cycle because of changes in the strength of the solar wind, which carries a weak magnetic field into the heliosphere, partially shielding Earth from low-energy galactic charged particles.

NEWLY PUBLISHED SCIENTIFIC PAPER TEARS GLOBAL WARMING AND THE IPCC TO SHREDS
Electro verse.net ^ | Dec 11, 2019

Posted on 12/17/2019, 4:54:46 PM by 11th_VA

http://www.freerepublic/com/focus/f-news/3801618/posts

A scientific paper entitled “An Overview of Scientific Debate of Global Warming and Climate Change” has recently come out of the University of Karachi, Pakistan. The paper’s author, Prof. Shamshad Akhtar delves into earth’s natural temperature variations of the past 1000 years, and concludes that any modern warming trend has been hijacked by political & environmental agendas, and that the science (tackled below) has been long-ignored and at times deliberately manipulated.

... Pro human induced global warming scientists exaggerate the contribution of carbon dioxide as a major greenhouse gas in absorbing long wave earth’s radiation. The fact is water vapor is the single largest atmospheric greenhouse gas (2% by volume), Carbon dioxide is second (0.0385% by volume).

Water vapor contributes 95% to the greenhouse effect, all other greenhouse gases combined contribute only 5%. Furthermore, the man-made portion of carbon dioxide contributes only 0.117% to the greenhouse effect.

The IPCC does not consider water vapor a greenhouse gas in its reports.

In addition, water vapor absorbs in a much wider band of long wave radiation (4-8 micrometer and 12-70 micrometer bands), whereas Carbon dioxide absorbs in narrow bands (13-16 micrometer) and ozone absorbs in a much smaller narrow band (9-10 micrometer). Thus, water vapor absorbs in a much wider wave length band, it has the single largest greenhouse effect among all the greenhouse gases.


7 posted on 02/16/2021 11:27:06 AM PST by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin posting here for the record hoping somebody might read and pass around)
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To: SeekAndFind
Texas has HUGE lignite deposits, the biggest in the USA. Cheap, abundant, can be burned cleanly. But it is made of (horrors) CARBON. Before the global warming lunacy got going, Texas burned lots of lignite to make cheap, abundant, and reliable power.


8 posted on 02/16/2021 11:28:25 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Life is short, and work long, opportunity fleeting, experiments dangerous, and judgment hard)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry folks jane and the China Syndrome put an end to any nuke idears.


9 posted on 02/16/2021 11:29:11 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this?)
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To: SeekAndFind

“As I mentioned earlier, there are two issues getting in nuclear energy’s way, and the other is a fight to keep it from establishing itself as the main source of energy, primarily by the left who seem to be very invested in solar and wind.”

This author is slow on the uptake.

Just as they are not truly “invested” in any given minority group whose interests they claim to have at heart, “The Left” is not “invested” in “solar and wind”. “Solar and wind” get dropped like a hot brick the second they lose their utility in the left’s relentless march toward obtaining and maintaining total dictatorial power over every human being on earth.

Really. At this late date, how can anyone interested in enjoying a reputation for credibility in the fertile minds of (the few remaining) ordinary, non-NPC American citizens justify remaining or appearing to remain naive about this basic, but essential, fact?


10 posted on 02/16/2021 11:29:16 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: mosesdapoet

You are on the right track.


11 posted on 02/16/2021 11:32:32 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: SeekAndFind
Nuclear Energy: The Safe, Clean, Cost-Effective Alternative


12 posted on 02/16/2021 11:32:42 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (Guide me, O my great Redeemer, pilgrim through this barren land.)
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To: SeekAndFind

https://futurism.com/nuclear-physicists-are-revisiting-a-safer-alternative-to-uranium

Thorium Reactors.

More fuel available than Uranium

Spent fuel can not be made into weapons

Spent fuel is not dangerous for as long a period.


13 posted on 02/16/2021 11:33:19 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: mosesdapoet

Global Cooling...(Been there, Done that)

Ice Age / Global Warming (1987)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqsRD4HPtH0

(1977) Leonard Nimoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_861us8D9M


14 posted on 02/16/2021 11:33:29 AM PST by HippyLoggerBiker (Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake. )
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To: SeekAndFind

“Greening the world” is only a subgoal for the EcoWackos. The real goal is the destruction of industrial civilization and a return to serfdom. This is why Greenies demand “solutions” that destroy and kill and oppose solutions that maintain prosperity. Their “environmental concern” masks a heart of evil.


15 posted on 02/16/2021 11:37:39 AM PST by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bookmark


16 posted on 02/16/2021 11:47:36 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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Climate alarmism like Leonardo Nimoy’s fearfully pointing toward the prospect of snowball earth arose in the ‘70s, but that was before a causal link between chronically increased incidence of cosmic rays (i.e., seeding or precipitating certain kinds of clouds at particularly critical altitudes) and chronically increased cloud cover (i.e., the albedo effect thereof working to reflect large amounts of solar thermal radiation right back into space before it ever had a chance to reach and warm the earth’s surface) leading to ice ages on the surface of the earth (i.e., beneath such persistent clouds) was posited, and began to be tested, leading to the current body of scientific proof which deserves very close attention.


17 posted on 02/16/2021 11:48:06 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: Seruzawa

Well put. See also: 10.


18 posted on 02/16/2021 11:49:29 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: mosesdapoet

And IIRC, something like 99% of the earth’s water vapor is natural. So even the idea of nuclear reactors “spewing out water vapor, which is a greenhouse gas” doesn’t get anywhere.


19 posted on 02/16/2021 11:51:58 AM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Reclamation is too expensive. Cheaper to buy coal from Utah and Wyoming. Lignite has much lower BTU than the bituminous coals in the West.


20 posted on 02/16/2021 11:55:51 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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