Posted on 02/05/2021 8:59:22 AM PST by SeekAndFind
As we are now three months out from the elections and almost one month removed from the storming of the Capitol, we can step back, catch our breath, and reassess where we stand. Emotions are calming down, the news cycle is less intense, and fanatical voices are being separated from reasonable voices. Yet one thing remains constant: millions of fair-minded Americans still believe there was serious election fraud. This is an issue that simply will not disappear.
These people are not wild-eyed white supremacists (or even non-wild-eyed white supremacists). To the contrary, they are as mortified as anyone over the events of January 6th.
They cannot simply be dismissed as cult-like followers of Trump, people whose reasoning powers have atrophied.
Nor can they be written off as unhinged conspiracy theorists, as many of them (most of them?) have never read a QAnon post in their lives.
Yet they still have serious concerns about the trustworthiness of our electoral process, and the more the mainstream media states that there is zero evidence of voter fraud, the more determined they become.
I stated on December 4 of last year that I am personally agnostic as to the claims of massive voter fraud. But that was not because all the claims of fraud struck me as specious. Instead, it was because I did not have the time or the expertise or the burden to analyze the claims in-depth so as to make a determination of my own.
As for the final outcome of the election, I decided early on to trust our court system and Congress and our fervent prayers, and so I recognize Joe Biden as our president.
At the same time, while I understand that it was the belief that the election was stolen which provoked the storming of the Capitol, it’s also very clear that plenty of rational, law-abiding, thinking Americans remain convinced that widescale fraud was undeniable.
All this came to a head during Senator Rand Paul’s interview with George Stephanopoulos when Paul refused to accept the “fact” that the election was stolen.
Instead, Paul said, “Well, what I would say is that the debate over whether or not there was fraud should occur. We never had any presentation in court. Most of the cases were thrown out for lack of standing, a procedural way of not hearing it.”
Others, of course, believe that this is not true and that cases were thrown out by the courts because of lack of evidence or poor evidence. You can do the research and decide for yourself.
What is clear, though, is that Sen. Paul is neither a Trump hack nor a rightwing extremist. Yet he, too, could not agree with the mainstream media’s outright dismissal of claims of fraud.
In the same way, Sen. Ted Cruz, even while calling Trump’s insistence that he won by a landslide to be “reckless and irresponsible,” still felt it was right to call for an investigation of claims of fraud.
He explained, “What I’ve said is, voter fraud is real, and we need to examine the evidence and look at the actual facts. And, in particular, what is the evidence of how much voter fraud occurred, and did it occur in sufficient quantities and in sufficient states to alter the outcome of the election?" That would have been the mandate of the election commission — to assess.”
Whether or not you like Cruz’s politics, it cannot be denied that he is a sharp legal mind. Yet he, too, felt there were questions that needed to be answered.
More forcefully, Red State columnist Stu Cyrk opined, “The election fraud drum needs to be banged until every American is aware of the MASSIVE election fraud during the 2020 elections. The implications are profound for future elections, and indeed, for every future action by federal and state governments, for if elections can be stolen with impunity, then we are no longer living in a constitutional Republic subject to the will of the people. Rather, we are living in a government-corporate oligarchy, as aptly described in a wonderful commentary by Angelo Codevilla. And the only way to resurrect our Republic is to slay the election fraud dragon!”
But Cyrk’s article is more than CAPS and exclamation points. There are other, key links provided (most importantly this one), while Cyrk’s conclusion is hardly overstated: “Our view is that the public needs to be much better educated regarding the election integrity issue — and having a more accurate understanding of the lawsuit component is a key part of that.”
These concerns will not be swept under the rug, which is why I suggested in early December that Joe Biden should lead the way in calling for a full-scale investigation of all charges of fraud. Let the whole truth come to light. In the end, how could it hurt to do so?
For some Trump voters, including me, the question of a stolen election does not have our attention. And from my perspective, for better or worse, God has appointed Biden to be our president, whether with or without fraud.
But for millions of other Trump voters, this question will not go away, leaving a cloud over the Biden presidency as well as destroying voter confidence for future elections.
Now that the dust has settled and almost all Americans are not expecting Biden (or Harris) to be removed from office as a result of the election results being overturned, is there a way for these questions to be answered? Or, if it is too late to properly examine the details of the 2020 elections, what can be done to regain voter confidence for 2022 and 2024?
To repeat: these are questions that will not easily go away.
There is no overturning anything once the office holder is in office. If it was a clear win, I would think everyone would want some digging through the ballots.
But each side knows what went on, because it has been going on for a long time, and it favors the incumbent on the 400+ other elections.
Why the hell does the author need to qualify his point by stating “I am personally agnostic as to the claims of massive voter fraud.”
That’s totally BS. The author and everyone else needs to quit trying to appease the mob and shout out the obvious conclusion that the election was absolutely stolen.
I decided early on to trust our court system and Congress and our fervent prayers, and so I recognize Joe Biden as our president..”
That, sir, is a copout and you are a Coward. No need to read further.
That's not true as a matter of principle.
It might be true as a matter of practice. Justice Scalia held that an unconstitutional practice becomes constitutional by being in place for a long time.
Indeed, there is a mechanism for this exact scenario that remains unused.
I was skeptical that the Mike Lindell video was going to be a big “Al Capone’s Vault” episode like Geraldo ran. Instead it was devastating.
This was not only a “smoking gun” it was slow motion video of the hammer coming down, the bullet leaving the barrel, traveling to the victim, entering the brain of the victim, and blowing their brains to pieces.
The cyber experts used the US Governments own Prism monitoring system to show the real time IP address activity between China servers and voting machines in multiple US states that tracked their use of stolen credentials, file transfers, and vote tally changes with precise time stamps for each illegal switch. It was animated as a timeline against a world map to show the moment by moment theft of an election. If the votes had not been switched Trump would have received over 80M votes to Joe Biden’s 64M.
Still crickets from the FBI and DOJ. How deep is the CCP influence to cover up this level of clear and convincing evidence of election hacking by a foreign government.
My thoughts on the election went from suspicions to certainty, when the corrupt Democrat leadership used every fraudulent trick and deception to cover up their guilt. How do I know they are guilty of massive election and voter fraud? They have literally broadcast it from coast to coast.
Once the censorship, deceptions, slander, and the Democrat’s own vile public hyperbole started, it was confirmed. They could have completely dispelled all doubt about the integrity of the election, and thus lift a massive liability they are now permanently married to, if they would just allow comprehensive audits of the most blatant cases of “voting irregularities” for which there is irrefutable proof.
Instead, they denied what is obvious. They lied over and over and over again regarding the charges of violating state election laws, committed new and compounded crimes and unprecedented abuse of power, and are spending all their political capital with numerous ways of defrauding the American voters. And they haven’t stopped yet.
The following video has evidence of foreign nations, identified by IP / Long / Lat, sending packets to US voting machines around 1:37:00.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIlTPddeUsk
Yes, I know the moderator is obnoxious.
RE: This was not only a “smoking gun” it was slow motion video of the hammer coming down, the bullet leaving the barrel, traveling to the victim, entering the brain of the victim, and blowing their brains to pieces.
Interesting, can you share the link to that video? Thanks.
RE: The following video has evidence of foreign nations, identified by IP / Long / Lat, sending packets to US voting machines around 1:37:00.
I’m surprised that YouTube, owned by Google, still hasn’t removed that video.
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