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1 posted on 01/26/2021 9:35:30 AM PST by amorphous
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To: amorphous

They would force people to sell assets?


2 posted on 01/26/2021 9:37:07 AM PST by nickcarraway
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I’m a retired CPA, and I can tell you that this would be a bookkeeping nightmare.


3 posted on 01/26/2021 9:38:29 AM PST by Daveinyork
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There already is one tax on unrealized gains that Republicans promised to get rid of in 2006, but never did.

If you exercise options, even if the value of the underlying shares falls to 0, you still owe taxes on the whole amount.

4 posted on 01/26/2021 9:38:44 AM PST by nickcarraway
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great, more market manipulation...might as well tax me for the miles that my truck sits in driveway..

didnt clinton suggest something similar? imputed income..if you can rent your house or a room in it, you are taxed on that. whether you rent it or not.

geez, I hate liberals and their attitude of 'everything that is yours belongs to the government'..

5 posted on 01/26/2021 9:42:44 AM PST by SGCOS
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Next up unrealized income gains.


7 posted on 01/26/2021 9:45:27 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes. )
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They should not want this because such a system would then allow the claim of losses that have not yet materialized. Bought stock at $100 and the price is now $90 so a “loss” of 10% yet have not sold the stock yet.


8 posted on 01/26/2021 9:45:51 AM PST by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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Remember dems and the yacht tax??? Was going to raise millions,instead the rich stopped buying yachts,yacht businesses went idle and middle class people lost jobs..What looks good on paper always destroys...


10 posted on 01/26/2021 9:46:58 AM PST by Hambone 1934 (When will the dems turn the US into Venezuela????)
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Taxation of unrealized capital gains, on what exactly? Stocks, Bonds, Realestate, Self improvement? Does education become a capital gain?


13 posted on 01/26/2021 9:49:34 AM PST by HangnJudge (Amen (Awomen) brother!)
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Per Austrian economics, a thing has no value until you sell it, and then its value is what someone is willing to pay. Someone please correct if I misstated Austrian economics theory.


16 posted on 01/26/2021 9:53:39 AM PST by Calvin Cooledge
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if you havent been paying attention

one of the wildest things in awhile is a group on Reddit attacking highly shorted stocks

GME halted AGAIN today.

the swings are wild


17 posted on 01/26/2021 9:54:12 AM PST by RummyChick (To President Trump: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3923111/posts)
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The HarrisXiben Regime crushing the non-institutional investors.


19 posted on 01/26/2021 9:58:25 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Somebody should tell Mr. Wyden he forgot to put in the loophole for Gates, Bezos, Buffett and Zuckerberg.

Musk would probably move and buy his own country.


21 posted on 01/26/2021 10:01:03 AM PST by DeFault User
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Two Oregon radical left, antifa supporting, Congressmen propose radical tax system - So surprising!


23 posted on 01/26/2021 10:01:16 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Based on current Market Conditions, the Value of my Ammunition is much higher than it was when I purchased it.

Anyone know which Tax Form I report that unrealized Gain on?
I won’t be selling that Asset. Could be a 1040-.556 Form.


24 posted on 01/26/2021 10:02:53 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Don't blame me, I Voted for the guy who actually Won the 2020 Presidential Election...)
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I am convinced that most Dems are economic illiterates. Those that aren’t that stupid are, instead, willfully trying to destroy the US economy.

Here is a simple, iron-clad, rule of Economics: If you tax something, you get less of it. Taxing capital, as this proposal would do, will significantly reduce the stock of capital in this country, leading to lots less innovation, less profits and less taxes. If the Dems’ goal is to raise more taxes, they would be far better served by lowering tax rates and reducing regulations, thereby giving economic growth a substantial boost. But then they’d be Republicans.


25 posted on 01/26/2021 10:04:22 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, “The Weapon Shops of Isher”)
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Presumably, this tax would be payable every year an asset is held, yes? If so, long-term investments will be a thing of the past. Unless an asset appreciates by more than the cap gains rate - 20% now and likely to go higher - every year - and only Bernie Maddof obtained "results" like that - you will pay more in taxes than any gain.

Likely this proposal is just a stalking horse to trade away for a higher cap gains rate.

30 posted on 01/26/2021 10:21:59 AM PST by TimSkalaBim
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Dang, I’ve got some ancient stock that has huge unrealized capital gains. That would force me to sell it off to move everything into cash.


31 posted on 01/26/2021 10:23:43 AM PST by glorgau
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It should also be inflation indexed.

For instance say someone bought Coke for $20/share in the year 2000, it’s $25 now (I don’ know the actual price), getting taxed on $5/share gain doesn’t account for the 20 years of inflation. Probably no nominal gain at all yet you’d still get taxed on that.


33 posted on 01/26/2021 10:26:38 AM PST by glorgau
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So if you inherit a farm and the next year the tax assessment goes up would you pay tax on the difference between the assessed value of the farm at the time of inheritance and the new assessed value?


34 posted on 01/26/2021 10:27:37 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatche)
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Meant for consumption by useful idiots. The folks at BlackRock will grease Biden palms as much as needed to make sure this doesn’t happen.

Yeah, they are in that deep.


39 posted on 01/26/2021 10:35:54 AM PST by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
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