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Beware of a Biden Tax On Unrealized Capital Gains
Real Clear Politics ^ | 25 Jan 2021 | Andrew Wilford

Posted on 01/26/2021 9:35:30 AM PST by amorphous

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1 posted on 01/26/2021 9:35:30 AM PST by amorphous
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To: amorphous

They would force people to sell assets?


2 posted on 01/26/2021 9:37:07 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: amorphous

I’m a retired CPA, and I can tell you that this would be a bookkeeping nightmare.


3 posted on 01/26/2021 9:38:29 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: amorphous
There already is one tax on unrealized gains that Republicans promised to get rid of in 2006, but never did.

If you exercise options, even if the value of the underlying shares falls to 0, you still owe taxes on the whole amount.

4 posted on 01/26/2021 9:38:44 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: amorphous
great, more market manipulation...might as well tax me for the miles that my truck sits in driveway..

didnt clinton suggest something similar? imputed income..if you can rent your house or a room in it, you are taxed on that. whether you rent it or not.

geez, I hate liberals and their attitude of 'everything that is yours belongs to the government'..

5 posted on 01/26/2021 9:42:44 AM PST by SGCOS
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To: nickcarraway

No more so than any other tax!


6 posted on 01/26/2021 9:43:25 AM PST by Jonny7797
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To: amorphous

Next up unrealized income gains.


7 posted on 01/26/2021 9:45:27 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes. )
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To: amorphous

They should not want this because such a system would then allow the claim of losses that have not yet materialized. Bought stock at $100 and the price is now $90 so a “loss” of 10% yet have not sold the stock yet.


8 posted on 01/26/2021 9:45:51 AM PST by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: Daveinyork

Next up is a sales tax due on January 1 based on the amount of money you plan to spend that year.

Where does it end????


9 posted on 01/26/2021 9:46:04 AM PST by Jonny7797
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Remember dems and the yacht tax??? Was going to raise millions,instead the rich stopped buying yachts,yacht businesses went idle and middle class people lost jobs..What looks good on paper always destroys...


10 posted on 01/26/2021 9:46:58 AM PST by Hambone 1934 (When will the dems turn the US into Venezuela????)
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To: nickcarraway

They would force people to sell assets?
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It would be one of the greatest sell offs in history. I would recommend shorting the stock market but of course my huge capital gain would be taxable and I’d have to sell my short positions to pay the taxes.

A really, really fast track to the destruction of a nations economy.


11 posted on 01/26/2021 9:47:13 AM PST by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed.)
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That would be too fair. I’m betting this plan disallows losses. Just like when you sell your house.

Pay on gains, no loss offset.


12 posted on 01/26/2021 9:47:22 AM PST by Jonny7797
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To: amorphous

Taxation of unrealized capital gains, on what exactly? Stocks, Bonds, Realestate, Self improvement? Does education become a capital gain?


13 posted on 01/26/2021 9:49:34 AM PST by HangnJudge (Amen (Awomen) brother!)
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No, the idea is that if you have a stock or mutual fund share and it appreciates from $50 to $70, you’d have to count the $20 as capital gains and pay tax on it, even though that “gain” is only on paper and didn’t put any cash in your pocket, rather than figure out the gain when it’s sold and pay tax on the total gain then.


14 posted on 01/26/2021 9:52:18 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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Meant to add, it’s a really really stupid idea.


15 posted on 01/26/2021 9:53:18 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: amorphous

Per Austrian economics, a thing has no value until you sell it, and then its value is what someone is willing to pay. Someone please correct if I misstated Austrian economics theory.


16 posted on 01/26/2021 9:53:39 AM PST by Calvin Cooledge
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if you havent been paying attention

one of the wildest things in awhile is a group on Reddit attacking highly shorted stocks

GME halted AGAIN today.

the swings are wild


17 posted on 01/26/2021 9:54:12 AM PST by RummyChick (To President Trump: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3923111/posts)
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To: Daveinyork
In all fairness, some in Biden's circle say, "no wealth tax, no mark-to-market regime for unrealized capital gains. The Biden plan does not endorse a wealth tax, as proposed by Sen. Warren (D-MA), or a mark-to-market regime for unrealized capital gains for high-income taxpayers, as proposed by Sen. Wyden (D-OR)."

https://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/capital-gains-tax/1009226/biden39s-tax-plan

IMO, Biden will go with whoever has his ear at the time. If this becomes law, it puts the USofA on par with Venezuela.

18 posted on 01/26/2021 9:56:38 AM PST by amorphous
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The HarrisXiben Regime crushing the non-institutional investors.


19 posted on 01/26/2021 9:58:25 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Still Thinking

“No, the idea is that if you have a stock or mutual fund share and it appreciates from $50 to $70, you’d have to count the $20 as capital gains and pay tax on it, even though that “gain” is only on paper and didn’t put any cash in your pocket, rather than figure out the gain when it’s sold and pay tax on the total gain then.”

So if it appreciates from $50 to $70 you pay the unrealized capital gains, then it falls from $70 to $40 you probably do not get unrealized capital losses from these socialists. Nutsoid.


20 posted on 01/26/2021 10:00:36 AM PST by plain talk
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