Posted on 01/19/2021 6:34:52 AM PST by Onthebrink
I have long said that we and Russia are natural allies. Far enough away from each other not to have territorial disputes, both continent-sized, technologically-advanced Western nations, both largely Christian nations (and I say this as a Jew - reality is reality, and I don’t think that to be a bad thing at all) and, not least, 2 common enemies: Radical Islam and China (the latter being a far more capable foe, of course). But for Communism, we would long ago have been allies.
If we can survive Biden/Harris and OUR Communists, perhaps one day we will be allies. Ironically enough, my grandfather ran from Russia to the US in the early 1920s to escape Communism, and I may have to do the opposite if the American Communists don’t murder me - as the Russian Communists murdered my grandfather’s father.
I agree..
Communism was the only reason to oppose Russia.
Much of what you say was predicted by the French political writer and philosopher de Tocqville. French political perspectives were very much influenced by their relationships with the young American nation and their experiences with the Russians who did much to depose Napolean and had a distictive effect on the french when these French speaking Russians arrived in Paris. Tocqville wrote that it was the destiny of Russia and America to be intertwined in world affairs. Perhaps it is foolish to be too sympathetic to modern day Russians, who after eighty five years of soul crushing communism and sever genetic losses from 1914-1954, are just beginning to steady themselves again. Yet believe that you are essentially correct. Despite all that has passed Russia and America have at their core common interests, values and are natural allies. It should also be noted that a strong ,nationalistic America teamed with a strong ,nationalistic Russia is the globalist’s worse nightmare. The globalists would side with China in any war between China and Russia. They would view the incorporation of Siberia and Pacific Russia into China as an important step into the creation of an authoritative one world government controlled by elites. Nation states are their enemy.
That bit about the toilet reminds me of a WW2 story.
Josif Broz, A.K.A. Marshal Tito, was the primary leader of the Yugoslavian partisans fighting the Germans. Shortly after the war began in his country, he was interviewed.
The reporter asked him, “How are your partisans, armed only with old rifles, going to defeat the Germans and their new Panzers?”
Simultaneously displaying tactical and strategic wisdom, as well as a sense of humor, he replied: “When the Germans get out of their new Panzers to take a piss, my partisans will shoot them with their old rifles.”
I guess that the Russians also heard that story. :>)
My favorite Tito story was when he wrote a letter to Stalin, “Dear Stalin, Stop sending your men to kill me, or else I will send one of my men to kill you, and I won’t need to send a second.”
“But would you want to be part of its crew on a modern battlefield with stealthy drones overhead?”
Wait just a couple of years, and armored brigades are going to have accompanying vehicles carrying lasers that can shoot down drones. https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2020/10/us-army-and-navy-demo-300-kilowatt-laser-by-2022-and-navy-targets-500-kilowatts-by-2024.html
“Communism was the only reason to oppose Russia.”
We were very friendly with them - Hell, they sold us Alaska, and you certainly wouldn’t sell a huge hunk of territory to any but a friendly nation that you thought was no threat to you.
As Churchill said, there are no permanent allies, just permanent interests.
You can thank Woodrow Wilson for getting relations with the Soviet Union off to a bad start.
He was a remarkable (if brutal) man. I am quite positive that the times made him into what he was. But the fact that he was able to keep the Red Army out of Yugoslavia at the end of WW2, unlike any other nation in Eastern Europe, is remarkable. Even the Russians were deterred by him, he was a tough SOB. Yes, he was a Communist, but as I understand it people in Yugoslavia had more freedom than anyone else in E. Europe. I worked one summer around 1980 at a lumber yard with a recent immigrant from Yugoslavia (though he emphasized that he was Serbian - a foretaste of the bad ethnic problems that nation has - and learned a lot about the country from him. A few years later, some of my father’s cousins from Russia got out, so I was able to compare their stories.
BTW, those Russian cousins did not hide the fact that everyone there hated the Chinese, a lot. I took that to mean that they feared them a lot. Perhaps a cultural memory from the Mongol invasion and occupation of Russia in the 1200s??
It’s telling how brutal Tito was, by how Yugoslavia stayed together and then quickly fell apart after his passing.
Honestly, that’s one of the few things he did right. He followed the lead of the Brits, who understood what Communism was going to become if it got control of a nation, and they tried to strangle it in its infancy...but not hard enough, regrettably. So we had 3 generations of Communism, nearly incinerated civilization on a few occasions, and are still dealing with the terrorism and radical movements that they set up, financed, trained and armed.
“It’s telling how brutal Tito was, by how Yugoslavia stayed together and then quickly fell apart after his passing.”
Yugoslavia, another example of how the Keystone Kops destroyed the Peace after WWI.
I visited Yugoslavia back in 1990. Every Business establishment I walked into had a Picture of Tito on the wall.
I assume every Residence did too.
The best part, when I went into a Bar in the City of Split, they had Alf playing on all the TV’s.
A classic case of, If you’re going to kill the King, don’t miss.
Very true.
Specs and numbers, blah, blah, blah......get back with me and others when it has been battlefield tested on the level of the Abrams.....
The Russian Ministry of Defense came to the conclusion that one cannot especially rush with large batches of Armatas due to extreme cost, the main reason, and firing visual problems with the unmanned turrets. And their emphasis should be placed on the T-72, T-80, and T-90 tanks, using the huge modernization potential inherent in them having received modern laser rangefinders and aiming systems, fire control, infrared vision, and protection (Arena and Shtora) against anti-tank missiles, these machines become even more formidable weapons, not inferior in combat power to the Abrams, Leopards and others. Russia doesn’t have that tree in the back yard growing money either.
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