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House Impeachment Manager Gives the Game Away - It's NOT about incitement of insurrection
Red State ^ | 01/18/2021 | Bonchie

Posted on 01/18/2021 7:03:28 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: gcparent
Ivana was not a citizen when he was born.

Neither were George Washingtons parents or Adams, Madison, Jefferson.....Obamas father NEVER became a citizen. Kamalas parents weren't citizens when she was born. It doesn't matter much anymore.

41 posted on 01/18/2021 9:22:37 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: 100American

I’m not nervous.

Just asking a question; basis was the Minor vs Happersett case.

See the dicta (comments) in that decision.


42 posted on 01/18/2021 9:46:28 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

All I will say is keep your eyes open and your powder dry

Sic Semper Tyrranis


43 posted on 01/18/2021 9:49:00 PM PST by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: MomwithHope
Don Jr. is not a natural born citizen. Only Tiffany and Barron were born here. They are going to follow the constitution.

According the Wikipedia: "Trump Jr. was born on December 31, 1977, in Manhattan, New York City, to Ivana and Donald Trump."

There are many of us who think that being born in Manhattan would qualify him as a natural-born citizen. Do you have more knowledge on this subject?

44 posted on 01/18/2021 9:59:07 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: DJ MacWoW

The forefathers made an exception for themselves.


45 posted on 01/18/2021 10:10:02 PM PST by gcparent (Justice Amy Coney Barrett)
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To: DJ MacWoW

The Presidents who were alive when the Constitution was adopted were grandfathered in by Article II, Section 1. “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution...”. It is the definition of natural born citizen that draws heated debate.


46 posted on 01/18/2021 10:27:18 PM PST by masadaman
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To: MomwithHope
Yeah, that didn't stop 0moeba (screw the birth certificate, his Dad was a British subject, right? Remember King George III and all that?)

Or Ted Cruz.

Or Heels-up Harris.

47 posted on 01/18/2021 11:18:23 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: MomwithHope; cgbg

Donald Trump Jr. was born in Manhattan. His father, Donald Trump, is an American President. Donald Trump Jr. is very American.

There will be no woman president.


48 posted on 01/19/2021 12:21:00 AM PST by familyop
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To: cgbg
This is so dumb.
Donald Trump Jr. could run.

and who will count the ballots?

49 posted on 01/19/2021 2:21:09 AM PST by SisterK (its a spiritual war )
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To: jonrick46

What’s this “Constitution” you’re talking about?

There’s no such thing anymore.


50 posted on 01/19/2021 2:31:14 AM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: gitmo

“If it feels good, do it,” the mantra of the 60s, has replaced the Constitution. It has become the template for lawlessness and anarchy. It brought the death of truth and, in its place the godless spirit of tyranny.


51 posted on 01/19/2021 3:12:17 AM PST by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Dems have been working overtime to end free and fair elections in this country for good. At least the Marxo-Fascists realize that the people want Trump in 2024. Otherwise they wouldn’t bother trying to end democratic elections in order to prevent him from running. At least at this point, they are open about only allowing pre-approved candidates who will do as the DC establishment and the media/tech oligarchs demand, which of course makes elections meaningless even without fraud and changing election laws to whatever will ensure Dem wins.


52 posted on 01/19/2021 3:13:49 AM PST by FenwickBabbitt
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To: gcparent; masadaman
Yes, the Founders made an exception for themselves. I was on the "Birther" threads. That seems like a loooooong time ago!

The Democrats made an exception for Obama. His "father" never had any intention of gaining citizenship whereas Don Jr's mother became a citizen. According to them, he's eligible.

53 posted on 01/19/2021 6:27:03 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: MomwithHope

Not about where born entirely. About Mothers not yet being USA citizens.

ONLY TIFFANY is NBC...

However—since the Dems have now shoved 2 NONE ELIGIBLE candidates down our throats, they have lost THAT argument.


54 posted on 01/19/2021 6:50:04 AM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: romanesq

Article II

Section 1

Clause 5

Please find it & read it.

BY YOUR interpretation, ANY ANCHOR BABY born on US soil can be President.

That is NOT TRUE....


55 posted on 01/19/2021 6:53:25 AM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: DJ MacWoW

Was Ivana a USA citizen by then?? Or later??


56 posted on 01/19/2021 6:54:24 AM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: romanesq

NOT US BORN...

U S CITIZENS when child is born.

The devil is in the details.


57 posted on 01/19/2021 6:56:36 AM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: jonrick46

YES, THERE IS

Article II

Section 1

Clause 5

Find it & read it


58 posted on 01/19/2021 6:57:46 AM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: ridesthemiles
Ivana became a citizen later but the precedent has already been set by Obama. His "father" never became a citizen.
59 posted on 01/19/2021 6:59:18 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: CurlyDave

Article 11

Section 1

Clause 5

Constitution

Should have been applied to Obama, and Pelosi cheated & certified his candidacy.

Also applies to Harris....

Since the Dems have violated NBC 2 times, then ANYONE might be a candidate in the future.


60 posted on 01/19/2021 7:01:15 AM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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