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2021/01/07
For General Flynn and anyone else who believes that an Italian IT guy hacked the US elections from Germany through “Fucino Tower”
Latest update: 2021/01/09 15:45. Una traduzione italiana è disponibile qui.
Quick summary for new readers:
This started as a quick post/tweet that I wrote initially as a reply to General Flynn’s tweet claiming that Italy stole the US elections, and it has since expanded considerably. Here’s Flynn’s tweet (subsequently deleted by Twitter’s removal of his account:
“We must stand up for truth and call for a full investigation”Another piece of the foreign interference puzzle. The viability of our constitution & our country are at risk.
Italy did it - Arturo D'Elia Admits to stealing election
on https://t.co/DKGSVVqNvx via @YouTube
— General Flynn (@GenFlynn) January 7, 2021
This claim is essentially based on this photograph of an alleged “affidavit” provided by a Prof. Alfio D’Urso, “Advocate/Lawyer” in Catania, Italy, which claims (without evidence) that an Italian IT guy named Arturo D’Elia switched US election data “from significant margin of victory for Donald Trump to Joe Biden” by using “military grade cyber warfare encryption capabilities to transmit switched votes via military satellite of Fucino Tower to Frankfurt Germany”:
[Image of "affidavit" omitted.]
There actually is a lawyer named Alfio D’Urso whose office address is in Via Vittorio Emanuele, in the city of Catania, Italy (source; source). His details can be found by entering his surname (without the initial D) in this registry of Italian lawyers. However, the office street number is missing from the “affidavit”. Does anyone think that a real lawyer would get his own office address wrong in such an important legal document?
By the way, assuming that the Alfio D’Urso mentioned in the “affidavit” is the same Alfio D’Urso whose office actually is in Via Vittorio Emanuele in Catania at number 5, it’s worth taking a look at the location in Google Street View. This is supposed to be the front door of the lawyer who is handling such a world-changing deposition? Seriously?
[image omitted - "It’s the slightly underwhelming front door opposite the van."]
[image omitted - "A closeup, from another angle, of the plaque, which says “Studio legale D’Urso”.]
A man named Arturo D’Elia does exist, and he actually did work for Leonardo SpA. He was arrested in late December 2020 for stealing military project data in Italy a few years ago (Reuters via Swissinfo). Of course, that in no way proves that he hacked the US elections. Or even that it’s the same person.
There are many more indications that suggest that this “affidavit” is simply made up by plucking vaguely relevant places and names from Google but without any real knowledge of the places and people involved or of how legal procedures work in Italy. You'll find them below, in my (slightly edited and updated) reply to General Flynn:
Hello sir, I'm Italian. To put it briefly and in the most technically accurate words I can find, this is the finest grade of bullshit.It's a photograph of unknown origin, of a document written on plain paper (whereas all Italian legal documents are on legal paper and stamped a million times or at least on letterhead). If you believe *that* at face value, may I interest you in the Trevi Fountain? Fine specimen, one careful owner: the guy on the right.
[image omitted]
[In case you don’t catch the reference: the guy is Italian comedian Totò, in a classic Italian comedy movie called Totò truffa '62. In the movie he is a con man who sells the world-famous Trevi Fountain, in Rome, to a highly gullible tourist]
The "affidavit" mentions a "military satellite of Fucino Tower", which is not a thing that exists (neither the satellite, nor the tower).
Also, that's not how US votes are counted. The tallies do not go through Germany.
As an Italian, the idea that some IT guy in Italy hacked the *entire* US voting system, and did so under the NSA's nose, is simply *hilarious*.
Italians are rolling on the floor laughing at this tale. Ah, yes, the ever gullible Americans. Do you read Italian? Have at it: there's even a LITERAL FLAT-EARTHER site involved in this.
The video you linked claims that Mr Matteo Renzi was involved in this amazing operation. Just so you know, THIS is Mr Renzi. The alleged mastermind:
Trash Italiano
@trash_italianoSHOK pic.twitter.com/GDflYiHylo
— Trash Italiano (@trash_Italiano) January 7, 2021
[video omitted]
Sir, if you seriously believe that the US election system can be hacked in Germany by an Italian techie from a place that doesn't exist, in a plot orchestrated by a guy who can't even pronounce "because", then it clearly doesn't take much to be a general in the US.
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You have a bunch of the basic claims wrong and have ignored the substantial amount of other newer evidence that supports the affidavit.
There is no affidavit. It is just a piece of paper in which a lawyer purportedly says an army official conveyed hearsay to him alleging things about a third party.
I, Prof Alfio D’Urso, Advocate/Lawyer, of Via Vittorio Emanuele, Catania, 95131 Italy, do hereby provide the following affidavit of facts as conveyed in several meetings with a high level army security services official:
Not meetings with D'Elia but with some unnamed army official who conveyed hearsay. It's junk.
To be clear— who thinks it’s horseshite— you?
It is linked to the source and in blockquotes.
a document written on plain paper (whereas all Italian legal documents are on legal paper and stamped a million times or at least on letterhead)
Official letters in Italy are marked with stamps and stickers.
Thank you for your earlier clarification on the italian disinformation blogger post.
In reply to this translated exchange-here is the “Torre Fucin. The Fucino Tower (bad english for antennae)— that is— huge satellite uplink dish antenna(e) of the Fucino Space Centre (linear distance 1.5 mi & by road 9 km/11 minute drive. Fucino Space Centre, owned/operated by Leonardo, SpA. the Italian military contractor. Where the “lowly tech” dude did his thing, with the large flash drives/data conversion.
This is quite real, and fills in the blanks. The affidavit is verifiable. And Renzi is in some DEEP shite if he thinks the existing Italian govt. will fall over this to his Euro-Socialist (ie. Communist) party.
Red wine-— now, demitasse with a meal, a rare event. You getting all this?
Apology for the habit of knocking trashing newbies— your postings quite helpful to those who work through them. so- a tenative welcome to the last bastion of our Republic.
interesting screen name. selling lumber or logs, whatever. Woodmen of the World.
An epiphany... or clue maybe. Trump team began using this marvelous track of a classic Italian opera, and it was at... DALTON, GA rally!
Hope, not strung out, but a little hope “they’ve got this” from this audio symbol:
“Nessun Dorma” (None/Nobody May Sleep).
From Puccini’s “Turandot” (Set in Peking, CHINA).
The last lyrics in Italian:
“Dilegua, o notte! Tramontate, stelle!
DISSOLVE OH Night! Set (STAY) Stars!
Tramontate, stelle!
STAY, Stars!
All’alba vincerò! Vincerò! Vincerò!
AT DAWN, I will (conquer) WIN, WIN, WIN.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_hLh4qCqpg
Have to pardon me— this is overwhelming in brilliance. Deo Vindice.
Correction: it was in July.. at the WH.
Plainly, it is an affidavit from an Italian lawyer about what he witnessed in the federal court room in Rome. If you knew anything about the Italian justice system, you would know that it is known for being very slow. It's the slowest in Europe. D'Urso provided an affidavit since it is faster than waiting for the court transcripts.
Plainly, this is mistaken. Unnotarized, it is not an affidavit. D'Urso does NOT represent D'Elia as his defense attorney. D'Elia's defense attorney is Damiano Cardiello. The prosecuting judge is Roberto D'Auria in Naples, not Rome.
The D'Urso "affidavit" even says, "D'Elia has been deposed by the presiding judge in Naples...."
January 6th, the day of the affidavit, is an Italian national holiday and such a holiday in nearly all latin countries. It is the traditional day when Christmas presents were opened. It celebrates the day when the three kings showed up with presents for the baby Jesus. If you ever lived in a latin country, you would probably know that.
Since December 5, 2020, D'Elia has been in confinement concerning charges related to acts in 2015-2017.
Moreover, the "affidavit" makes no allusion to D'Urso so much as having made any contact with D'Elia whatsoever, at any time. As testimony, it would be worthless. It states he
do[es] hereby provide the following affidavit of facts as conveyed in several meetings with a high level army security services official.Arturo D'Elia, former head of the IT Department of Leonardo SpA....
It is not a quote of the unidentified official but a paraphrase of what Ollie Official allegedly "conveyed" to D'Urso. The entirety of D'Urso's claim is that he heard the unidentified Ollie Official "convey" certain information. Technically, D'Urso's statement would be true and accurate even if Ollie Official "conveyed" pure fiction. Nothing in the lawyer's statement identifies the "high level army security services official" as D'Elia. The next sentence, D'Urso identifies D'Elia as a former head of IT Department at Leonardo.
I've lived in Europe, including Italy, and having seen real legal documents with stamps and seals, I have some vague familiarity with their system of law, and even a holiday or two.
D'Urso provided an affidavit since it is faster than waiting for the court transcripts.
A court transcript of what? D'Urso's alleged meetings with an unnamed high level army security services official? What was D'Urso doing in court? He is not defense counsel on a computer hacking charge.
No, D'Elia, himself, is the "high level army security services official". Do note that D'Elia is not an army official, but one who provides services to the Italian army. In the U.S. we would usually call such a person a civilian employee of a military contractor. The author of the affidavit is not an American, is not a native speaker of English, and, likely learned a more British variant of English. (British English is more popular in Europe.)
D'Elia was most certainly not an official anything on January 6, 2021. He was taken into custody on December 5, 2020, where he remains. D'Elia has been charged by the public prosecutor of Naples for technology/data manipulation and implantation of viruses in the main computers of Leonardo S.p.A. in December 2020.
D'Elia worked for and at a facility of a civilian company, Leonardo, SPA, heading its IT department. D'Elia "served as IT security consultant at NATO's Communication and Information Agency in Rome between 2010 and 2015."
There is no need to speculate what D'Urso sounds like. His accented English does not sound very British to me.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/q_R7giZ3WiY
American English overtook British English. Business, rock and roll, movies, television, and American bases.
He states on the video that the statement is dated 6 November 2021.
There have beeen no charges brought regarding anything to do with elections. D'Elia is not confined on a charges related to elections in 2020, but hacking in Italy. He was charged by the Naples prosecutor for crimes committed between 2015 and 2017.
The investigating judge is Roberto D'Auria, in Naples, not Rome. The investigation is a separate judicial phase in Italy.
In particular, at the state of the acquisitions, it appears that this serious cyber attack was carried out by an IT security manager of Leonardo SpA, Mr. Arturo D'Elia, against whom the GIP of the Court of Naples ordered the measure of pre-trial detention in prison.
Leonardo statement [Google translate]
Leonardo on the measures of the Naples Public Prosecutor's OfficeRome, 5 December 2020 - With regard to today's measures adopted by the Naples judiciary, Leonardo announces that the investigation resulted from a complaint presented by the same company security, which was then followed by others. The measures concern a former collaborator not employed by Leonardo and an employee, not a manager, of the company. The Company, obviously the injured party in this affair, has provided since the beginning and will continue to provide maximum cooperation to the investigators to clarify the incident and for its own protection. Finally, it should be noted that classified or strategic data is processed in segregated areas and therefore without connectivity and in any case not present in the Pomigliano site.
That doesn't negate anything he stated. The Italian legal system may have different laws about hearsay, than what exists in the U.S., where hearsay is routinely admitted into evidence in court.
Federal Rules of Evidence, Rule 802:
Rule 802. The Rule Against HearsayHearsay is not admissible unless any of the following provides otherwise:
• a federal statute;
• these rules; or
• other rules prescribed by the Supreme Court.(As amended Apr. 26, 2011, eff. Dec. 1, 2011.)
In reply to this translated exchange-here is the “Torre Fucin.
Nope. Torre Febonio is the search result from the search on Torre Fucino. Read it from the left side of the page, or from the map, not your search box.
Your link:
The Fucino Tower (bad english for antennae)— that is— huge satellite uplink dish antenna(e) of the Fucino Space Centre
Not bad English, just wrong. There is no Torre Fucino.
Calling a dish a tower will give rooftop installation of DISH and DirecTV a whole new meaning.
There are high microwave towers, but they sit under the antenna. The antenna is not the tower.
Just a small correction. The affidavit states D’Elia was charged and deposed in Naples, without stating the exact date of the court proceeding. The affidavit is dated January 6, 2020, noting it was executed in Rome.
interesting screen name. selling lumber or logs, whatever. Woodmen of the World.
Uhhh, no. Chess player.
Yes— Torre Febonio is mentioned in the back and forth comments on the italian blog. I looked up the MEDIEVAL Febonio Tower, first on G8888gle.
Then, searching “nearby” entered “ Fucino Space Centre” and it popped right up— and is 9km (11 minutes by road) from the Medieval Febonio Tower or Torre Febonio, and line of sight from the Febonio to Fucino Space Centre is a little over a mile
Picayune to argue about whether a tower is a dish-in fact it is immaterial. Because, as a point of reference the medieval tower is very useful. Near the “Torre Febonio” is the Leonardo SPA site.- pretty obvious from the facility at Fucino it is a LARGE military contractor installation.
The Frankfurt server data came in via satellite and went out altered from the Fucino Space Center (and intercepted no doubt by NSA the incoming signal to the US disseminated to the various cheating states.
Check out their web page. Hell of a lot of dishes (yes, but no tower— so what!)
https://www.telespazio.com/en/about-us/our-business/space-centres-teleports/fucino-space-centre
AND... the TEXT of the home page for “Telespazio” which is a company owned by Leonardo SPA (the huge Italian military contractor) says the following calling their satellite dishes— Antennas. The lawyer knows which is which refers to the IT tech who uploaded the changed data:
Quote:”Telespazio’s “Piero Fanti” Space Centre in Fucino (L’Aquila) has been active since 1963 and today, with its 170 antennas and 370,000 square metres, it is recognized as the first and most important “teleport” in the world for civilian use” (And obviously as a contractor for Italian military— tasking in-orbit control and satellite tasking)
The other owner is Thales (https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwide/space/press-release/thales-alenia-space-and-telespazio-signed-contract-two-additional)
Picayune to argue about whether a tower is a dish-in fact it is immaterial. Because, as a point of reference the medieval tower is very useful. Near the “Torre Febonio” is the Leonardo SPA site.- pretty obvious from the facility at Fucino it is a LARGE military contractor installation.
I am certainly not arguing that a dish is a tower. I am arguing that a medieval tower named Febonio Tower, in the town of Trasacco is not a satellite dish in the town of Ortucchio where the Fucino "Piero Fanti" Space Center is located.
http://www.telespazio.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/brochures/Scheda_Fucino_eng_0607.pdf
Telespazio Fucino “Piero Fanti” Space Centre
Comune di Ortucchio 65051 Avezzano (AQ) - Italy
phone +39 0863 5501The Telespazio “Piero Fanti” Space Centre, Fucino (130km from Rome), in operation since 1963 is recognized today as the first and most important space centre in the world for civilian use, hosting 90 antennas on an extension of 370,000 square meters.
Defendant stated he was working in the Pescara facility of Leonardo SpA and utilized military grade cyber warfare encryption capabilities to transmit switched votes via military satellite of Fucino Tower to Frankfurt Germany.
That there is a medieval tower 9 Km (or 10.5 Km Ortucchio to Trasacco) from the Fucino Space Center in Ortucchio is what is irrelevant. Nobody transmitted anything from the medieval tower to a satellite. There is no relevance to a medieval tower, not named Fucino Tower, located 9 Km away from the Fucino Space Center in Ortucchio. Febonio Tower is not in Ortucchio where the Space Center is, it is in Trasacco, AQ, Italy. The Fucino Space Center, in the town of Ortucchio, appears to be the town's sixth top attraction per Trip Advisor. Lago Fucino was a lake, but it was drained in 1878.
D'Elia was working in Pescara, which is a port city on the Adriatic coast in the Abruzzo region of Italy. The Fucino Space Center is centrally located between the Mediterranean and the Adriatic in the province of L'Aquila.
The space center was 9 Km from an irrelevant medieval tower, and 106 Km from where D'Elia was working. Relevant is the nonexistence of a Fucino tower in the town of Ortucchio.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucine_Lake
The Fucine Lake (Italian: Lago Fucino or Lago di Celano) was a large endorheic lake in western Abruzzo, central Italy, stretching from Avezzano in the northwest to Ortucchio in the southeast, and touching Trasacco in the southwest. Once the third largest lake in Italy, it was drained in 1878.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trasacco
Trasacco is a comune and town in the province of L'Aquila in the Abruzzo region of central-eastern Italy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescara
Pescara is the capital city of the Province of Pescara, in the Abruzzo region of Italy. It is the most populated city in Abruzzo, with 119,217 (2018) residents (and approximately 350,000 including the surrounding metropolitan area). Located on the Adriatic coast at the mouth of the Aterno-Pescara River, the present-day municipality was formed in 1927 joining the municipalities of the old Pescara fortress, the part of the city to the south of the river, and Castellamare Adriatico, the part of the city to the north of the river. The surrounding area was formed into the province of Pescara.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Aquila
L'Aquila; meaning "The Eagle" is a city and comune in central Italy. It is the capital city of both the Abruzzo region and of the Province of L'Aquila. As of 2013, it has a population of 70,967 inhabitants. Laid out within medieval walls on a hill in the wide valley of the Aterno river, it is surrounded by the Apennine Mountains, with the Gran Sasso d'Italia to the north-east.L'Aquila sits upon a hillside in the middle of a narrow valley; tall snow-capped mountains of the Gran Sasso massif flank the town. A maze of narrow streets, lined with Baroque and Renaissance buildings and churches, open onto elegant piazzas. Home to the University of L'Aquila, it is a lively college town and, as such, has many cultural institutions: a repertory theatre, a symphony orchestra, a fine-arts academy, a state conservatory, a film institute. There are several ski resorts in the surrounding province (Campo Imperatore, Ovindoli, Pescasseroli, Roccaraso, Scanno).
AND... the TEXT of the home page for “Telespazio” which is a company owned by Leonardo SPA (the huge Italian military contractor) says the following calling their satellite dishes— Antennas.
Yes, antennnas, NOT TOWERS.
The Space Center address is in Ortucchio. Lake Fucino is a dry lake, or what was a lake until 1878.
The lawyer knows which is which refers to the IT tech who uploaded the changed data
The lawyer said it was "Fucino Tower." But then he said, on the video, that the "affidavit" was dated 6 November 2021. D'Elia used the tower, you know, the thing.
No need for a tour guide. Central point is verified— the download happened from the Telespazio corp/Leonardo SPA site with 170 dish antennaes any one of which could have been the uplink location.
Bottom line, the good guys have all of this, as well as the IT dude.
obi-won is in deep bovine excreta. not getting away with this, nor any of his embeds and in Italy the islamo-fascist embeds are being rolled up.
Back to your chess board.
No need for a tour guide. Central point is verified— the download happened from the Telespazio corp/Leonardo SPA site with 170 dish antennaes any one of which could have been the uplink location.Bottom line, the good guys have all of this, as well as the IT dude.
You had all your geography wrong, so it was worth correcting. And there were imaginary transcripts of court proceedings on a national holiday, and D'Urso's imaginary British accent. As the motto of Faber College says, knowledge is good.
The central point, that the nonexistent Fucino Tower was used, cannot be verified.
As I thought more about it, what on earth would be the possible point of having a tower for a satellite dish? It seems someone forgot how SATCOM works.
Lawyer D'Urso can verify nothing as he is a first hand witness to nothing.
Bottom line, the good guys have all of this, as well as the IT dude.obi-won is in deep bovine excreta. not getting away with this, nor any of his embeds and in Italy the islamo-fascist embeds are being rolled up.
Oh dear! Trust the plan.
The plan in November was to lose the election.
The plan on Tuesday, the 5th was to give a stump speech and lose the Senate.
The plan on Wednesday, the 6th was to give a stump speech, storm Congress, lose the objection to the Arizona vote, and drop other objections.
The plan on Thursday, the 7th was to announce there would be a peaceful transfer of power.
The plan on Friday, the 8th was to announce that President Trump would not be attending the inauguration ceremonies.
The current plan appears to be to climb atop the nonexistent Fucino Tower, or perhaps the medieval Febiono Tower, and yell I'm on top of the world, Ma!
Well, the IT dude isn't climbing the tower, he's in prison.
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