Posted on 01/06/2021 6:42:08 AM PST by Onthebrink
Red states will resist.
Jotmo wrote: “Not really regulation related from what I’ve read. It’s the fact the ammo manufacturers are unwilling to invest the enormous capital and time in building new plants, or expanding existing, as the results of one election will make demand drop significantly.”
That is correct. I was a manager of one of the largest DoD ammunition programs for about 14 years. The capital requirements are enormous and the supporting infrastructure is old, built during WWII. The process of making ammunition is complex and parts are really dangerous.
The demand for gunpowder simply isn’t enough to support new facilities that would make the process more efficient. I know of no one making a big profit running an ammunition plant.
I can’t imagine any prior civil upheaval occurring under our current societal conditions.
As far as guns, my predictions is they will just keep things going down the cultural slope like it has been for the last 100+ years, while keeping everyone fat and entertained. They pass their legislation against manufacturing and new purchases and wait for the guns to be turned in or registered as required as the decades roll on and on and the generations pass. Eventually nobody will bother to get off the virtual reality couch when they come pick up great grandpa’s dusty guns.
Freegards
If they get control of all three branches of the government, I wonder if they could, at some point, repeal the 2nd and be done with it? Sound insane? But isn’t that what Socialistic/Communistic regimens do?
I am no longer surprised by what I see coming from the left.
Fortunately my friend gave me a box of his....
I agree with that, unlike 1994, there will be state-level resistance in a handful of places, South Dakota or Texas maybe, for example. But you won’t be “safe” if you happen to live in one of those states, and most of it will be bluster. Federal law enforcement will operate with impunity, local and state state law enforcement may not assist, but they won’t prevent either. If a state resident of some resistant state is arrested the governor will bluster and demand that “something be done!” And then it’ll drop out of the news.
Hey, maybe Biden will lift the ban on the importation of ammunition from China.
Just tell BATFE the truth - that you sold them in a private sale and have no receipts. It’s legal & cannot be disproved - like stealing elections.
It’s not legal in many States. “Private” sales are required to go through an FFL holder.
The article makes a possibly mistaken assumption.
The article assumes most of the new gun owners are “shooters”. Not all gun owners are shooters. Many gun owners buy a gun, ammo, and never shoot the gun until they need to. Still others buy a gun, shoot a few boxes for practice, and never practice again.
The constant demand for ammo is caused by shooters who shoot regularly, from boxes to cases.
So whether or not these new gun owners contribute to an ammo shortage in 2021 depends on whether they are shooters or not. I suspect many of them are not gun enthusiasts who can’t wait to go shooting regularly. Some will become that now that their mental barriers to guns are broken. That is going to happen for many new gun owners. But most? Probably not.
I think the article is vastly overblown. I don’t see the huge number of new gun owners suddently becoming shooting enthusiasts. But I could be wrong.
We will see.
“range didn’t allow steel ammunition”
Sounds like they’re just lazy.
They sell the brass, and don’t want to have to separate out the steel casings.
It’s really not hard. A good magnet will get the job done in a jiffy.
I didn’t miss it.
Do you think this is the first time there was an increase in demand for ammo along with massive new gun purchases?
This is nothing new, just a larger scale. It doesn’t change the fundamental risk/benefit calculation.
This is not my opinion. This is what I have read in a few places.
We used to have about a dozen friends over for shooting party’s a few times a year.
We would go through probably 1500 to 2000 rounds each time.
We have done none in the past year.
At $1.00 to $2.00 a round, ammo is just too dam expensive, and no one is willing to dip into their stock...just in case we need it...soon.
You're brilliant! I got a magnet and just pulled out one of the rounds and there's nothing steel in the bullet at all, it's the cartridge........Thanks!
Which just goes to prove the old adage.....
“Never put all your iron in 1 canoe”....or something like that..../s
Look at what happened in Connecticut, a deep blue bastion if ever there was one.
They passed restrictive new gun laws and the citizens ... um ... ignored them. Millions of new criminals were created overnight when citizens just said No.
I’ve been looking for one certain gun for some time. Unsuccessfully. I was in the local RK the other day getting some other things. Stopped at the gun sales and asked if they had any guns stamped with Springfield, and they had two. One was a 9 and the other a .40. The 9 was too large and besides it was a 9.The 40 was a good size but no capacity. For the hell of it I asked if they had ammo for sale. Of course not.
repeal the 2nd and be done with it?
They people just ignore laws, we are not a republic.
Bkmk
My son went to the local gun show today. He said there was plenty of guns and ammo but, for example, 9 mm was going for a dollar a round. Not sure about gun prices.
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