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Petrified Opal Tree Trunk Situated In Arizona Its About 225 Million Years Old.
archaeology-world ^ | MARCH 22, 2020 | ARCHAEOLOGY WORLD TEAM

Posted on 12/27/2020 5:07:30 AM PST by Rakhi Sarkar

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To: Manly Warrior

You know what I mean. All diamonds have flaws but many can only be observed with an electron microscope. Diamonds that are made within the earth are formed at depth under high pressure and temperature. They take quite a while to form. I’ll let you decide how long. Because of the time required to make them, the carbon atoms can align in such a way that they appear to most analyses as flawless. At least the ones worth a pretty penny. My wife’s has a flaw that is visible with a hand lens because I didn’t want to pay a small fortune for a “flawless” one cuz I am cheap. Either way, you ain’t making one that can fool an expert in your garage. Unless you want to try cubic zirconium.


41 posted on 12/27/2020 1:49:59 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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42 posted on 12/27/2020 7:03:20 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: crusty old prospector

Well, everything you state has been shown to be not necessarily THE means of how diamonds are actually formed in te earths mantle/crust. Hows about the gas depcomposition/deposition process?

Methane, in a super heated environment, absent oxygen, depositis carbon into crystal form.... How long does that take? Well, it is done in the lab in matters of hours to days, IF the conditions in the earth approximate this, why again would it take a bazillion years? Wouldnt tectonics/volanics etc disrupt the long slow process by matter of course? Hmmm. That bugaboo of long periods of time again- the fact is that not much stays static for too long as we observe.

I mean, we measure the rise and fall of the earths surface in centimeters per years, along with plate movement. You are saying underneath all that liquid acting material, a pocket of carbon and the conditions remain static for eons? Not supported by science at all.

IF one simply substitutes a short period of time for a long period of time, it is amazing at how much of what we actually observe happening around us (Mt St Helens canyon, rock formed and eroded in days weeks and months), happen rapidly.

And then there is the troublesome but common example of soft tissue in dinosaur fossils that are commonly dated to 60 million years....

World view. It matters. But we are all entitled to our acceptance or rejection of historical science outcomes based on our faith. I just don’t have enough faith to believe in wild assumptions that something had to happen over eons of time when it passes logic and reason and the basic laws of science, observational or historic.


43 posted on 12/28/2020 5:05:47 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" )
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To: Manly Warrior

OK, go make me a few trillion sand grains and get back with me. Then erode them from the highlands where you created them and move them by river to the ocean to form a delta or beach. What you chose to believe is your business. But I have seen ZERO evidence in the Bible that the earth is young. Next, you will tell me that humans and dinosaurs co-existed.


44 posted on 12/28/2020 6:08:40 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: Manly Warrior

And back to the diamonds. You can tell the difference with an electron microscope which diamonds were formed in the earth and which were man-made. Ask DeBoers, the world’s largest diamond miner.


45 posted on 12/28/2020 6:10:25 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: crusty old prospector

Well, if you read the first 11 chapters of Genesis, you will see how the creation was done in quite a bit of detail. Regarding dinosaurs and man-tell me you don’t “believe” they coexisted?

I think a cursory review of evidence shows that there are many accounts in antiquity and in modern archeology that show some very interesting depictions or evidences of the very thing. Hard to categorically deny.

See, in your eons of time when nothing had to do something to the appearance of man, the ingredient that’s missing is a force or prime actor. Nothingness can accomplish nothing- unless you make believe.

Not going to dissuade you from your seat on the board of evolutionary theory, nor you mine from the rational acceptance that the laws of science are fixed and only something outside the entire system can make something happen. Nothing is observed happening on “its” own. Absolutely nothing.

The requirement to believe in spontaneous anything is a really strong disagreement that there is a Creator and therefore an obligation to Him.

Time is the god of that belief system, and the minions of us are just “self-important” critters, but just critters none the less. So we can do as we will.

In my world view, we are all critically important, made in the likeness and image of God, but fallen and in need of rescue and the world we observe around us is an observable system that shows that fall and subsequent decay/death. But, there is a solution coming! Rescue and restoration of all things to their former glory! Jesus the Christ, came once to pay for our sin, will come again for Judgement.

Anyways, Best;


46 posted on 12/28/2020 6:30:35 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" )
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To: crusty old prospector

I do not know how long a diamond may or may not take to be formed in nature. Neither do you. I think, based on rational observation of the processes known or reasonably scientifically thought able, that the right ingredients, the right conditions and the right event ( think Kimberling Tubes penetrating strata of oil bearing/methane bearing rock under extreme pressures of tectonic/volcanic action.... how long? If there was a shrug emojii, I’d use it ) could produce lots of mineral combinations.

Of course, some folks would say the diamonds are just being carried upward in the described process- again, not a fact in evidence to my knowledge.


47 posted on 12/28/2020 6:36:00 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" )
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To: Manly Warrior

Have a nice day.


48 posted on 12/28/2020 6:39:40 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: crusty old prospector

And you. Peace.


49 posted on 12/28/2020 6:51:27 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" )
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To: devane617

Hmmm, I thought it was 4.5 billion.


50 posted on 12/28/2020 6:55:39 AM PST by jpsb
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