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To: rdcbn1

Do you have a Tavor?
That trigger slap is nasty, trigger pull is long and heavy, and the length of pull on bull-pups make them very uncomfortable. At least for me. I’m sure an after-market trigger replacement would do wonders.

I keep reading that IDF soldiers want to go back to the M4 or Galil after similar complaints with the Tavor and it’s cumbersome structure.

I believe France is abandoning their bullpups.


120 posted on 12/16/2020 4:06:06 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
I have a good bit of experience with the Tavor.

I like it a lot. it's different and a lot of people have difficulty adapting - especially those trained on the M-16 manual of arms. I seem to adapt well for some reason.

The original military trigger was heavy but not that bad . IWI updated the trigger pack on the X95 to be more like the superb aftermarket Geissele drop in replacement trigger pack which gives the Tavor a top notch trigger.

Have not noticed and objectionable trigger slap. The IDF is generally very satisfied with the latest version of the Tavor from the feedback I am aware of. The Izzys really love their light weight shorty M-16 carbines and many don't want to give them up. These carbines have serious ballistic limitations and the short barrel configuration does not function as reliably as the full length M-16 , but they work well enough in the close quarters urban environment the IDF operates in day to day.

Unfortunately, the shorty M-16 carbines would be more or less worthless in a full scale, major conflict with a well equipped foreign army so the Tavor is a better solution for the IDF in a serious conflict. It's very good in urban CQB and it's full length bull pup barrel gives it the range and terminal ballistics needed for a mainstay assault rifle. it's also very rugged which is important because Israel's largely conscript soldiers are hard on weapons. No way does anyone in the IDF want to go back to the Galil, nor do many want to go back to the full size M-16.

I like the Tavor for self defense in the event of being caught in a pop up Antifa street putsch with no police support expected. As listed above, it has a lot of nice features for that application even if it might get snickers and some finger pointing at a typical Travis Haley carbine class. The Tavor makes a lot of sense in the environments and situations we see a lot of unfortunate people getting ambushed in by Antifa/BLM. Others may disagree with my rationale.

123 posted on 12/16/2020 5:06:36 PM PST by rdcbn1
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Another reason the IDF uses the Tavor is because they train a lot of female conscripts who are not well suited to full size M-16 so the compact bull pup configuration and length of pull is a good compromise for small frame female soldiers. The extreme rearward weight distribution also allows female soldiers with lower upper body strength than men to maneuver the weapon to the best of their ability. The Tavor X95 and the new micro Tavor are especially well suited to use by female conscript soldiers.
124 posted on 12/16/2020 5:28:47 PM PST by rdcbn1
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