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Two Supreme Court Justices Are of the View the Court MUST Hear Cases Involving Disputes Between States
RedState ^ | December 11, 2020 | Shipwreckedcrew

Posted on 12/11/2020 9:55:50 AM PST by billorites

Four years ago, Nebraska filed a motion in the Supreme Court seeking permission to file a complaint against Colorado over issues involving Colorado’s passage of legislation that legalized the recreational use of marijuana in contravention of federal law.  Nebraska alleged that its interests as a state were harmed by that legislation.

The Supreme Court denied the motion.

Justice Clarence Thomas dissented from the denial, and he was joined in his dissent by Justice Samuel Alito.

Chief Justice Roberts, and Justices Scalia, Kennedy, Breyer, Ginsburg, Kagan, and Sotomayor were together in denying the motion.

Justices Scalia, Kennedy, and Ginsburg are no longer on the Court.

What Justice Thomas wrote in his dissent is something that I was not aware of until doing a bit of research on the claims raised by Texas, and looking more closely at the Supreme Court’s jurisprudence on its “original jurisdiction.”

The first paragraph of Justice Thomas’ dissent read as follows:

Federal law does not, on its face, give this Court discretion to decline to decide cases within its original jurisdiction. Yet the Court has long exercised such discretion, and does so again today in denying, without explanation, Nebraska and Oklahoma’s motion for leave to file a complaint against Colorado. I would not dispose of the complaint so hastily. Because our discretionary approach to exercising our original jurisdiction is questionable, and because the plaintiff States have made a reasonable case that this dispute falls within our original and exclusive jurisdiction, I would grant the plaintiff States leave to file their complaint.

As noted, by joining Justice Thomas’s dissent, Justice Alito signaled he agreed with Justice Thomas’s view on whether the Court must hear cases involving claims made by one state against another state.

Justice Thomas went on to explain his view:

Federal law is unambiguous: If there is a controversy between two States, this Court—and only this Court—has jurisdiction over it. Nothing in §1251(a) suggests that the Court can opt to decline jurisdiction over such a controversy. Context confirms that §1251(a) confers no such discretion. When Congress has chosen to give this Court discretion over its merits docket, it has done so clearly…. Compare §1251(a) (the Court “shall have” jurisdiction over controversies between States) with §1254(1) (cases in the courts of appeals “may be reviewed” by this Court by writ of certiorari) and §1257(a) (final judgments of state courts“may be reviewed” by this Court by writ of certiorari). The Court’s lack of discretion is confirmed by the fact that, unlike other matters within our original jurisdiction, our jurisdiction over controversies between States is exclusive…. If this Court does not exercise jurisdiction over a controversy between two States, then the complaining State has no judicial forum in which to seek relief. When presented with such a controversy, “[w]e have no more right to decline the exercise of jurisdiction which is given,than to usurp that which is not given.” Cohens v. Virginia, 6 Wheat. 264, 404 (1821) (Marshall, C. J.).

Nonetheless, the Court has exercised discretion and declined to hear cases that fall within the terms of its original jurisdiction…. The Court has even exercised this discretion to decline cases where, as here, the dispute is between two States and thus falls within our exclusive jurisdiction…. The Court has concluded that its original jurisdiction is “obligatory only in appropriate cases” and has favored a “sparing use” of that jurisdiction…. The Court’s reasons for transforming its mandatory, original jurisdiction into discretionary jurisdiction have been rooted in policy considerations. The Court has, for example, cited its purported lack of “special competence in dealing with” many interstate disputes and emphasized its modern role “as an appellate tribunal.”…

I have previously applied the Court’s precedents taking this discretionary approach to our original jurisdiction…. I have also acknowledged that “sound reasons” support that approach…. Because our discretionary approach appears to be at odds with the statutory text, it bears reconsideration. Moreover, the “reasons” we have given to support the discretionary approach are policy judgments that are in conflict with the policy choices that Congress made in the statutory text specifying the Court’s original jurisdiction.

Four years ago Justices Thomas and Alito took the view that the Supreme Court cannot, in an exercise of discretion it has conferred upon itself, deny States a forum to litigate disputes with other states because, under the Constitution, the Supreme Court is the only forum where such disputes can be resolved.

What is unknown on this day is the views of Justices Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett on this key issue.

When Justice Alito issued his one line “Denial” of the Emergency Application for Injunctive Relief in the Kelly/Parnell case dismissed by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, he did so later on the same day that Texas filed its motion to file a Complaint.  I saw many comments linking the two events together in a manner that I thought was “pollyannaish” and uninformed.  I did not see a justification for drawing any link between the two events.

But I’ve been rethinking that view over the past 24 hours, having taken more time to read Texas’ motion and look further into the application of the Supreme Court’s original jurisdiction in a unique litigating circumstance where one sovereign “state” sues another sovereign “state” in the only Court with the authority to settle the dispute between them.

Supreme Court Justices impart their jurisprudential views — and propagate them into the legal and judicial community — through the lineage that is represented by their law clerks.  These clerks remain a “network” in the legal community, and the networks of the different justices interact with one another.  Justice Thomas has been on the Court for 30 years — he has had approximately 120 law clerks during that time. Justice Alito has been on the Court for almost 15 years and has a network of more than 50 former clerks.

In my opinion, there is simply no question that the Texas lawsuit is the result of discussion among this segment of the legal and judicial community who were well aware of the views of the Justices on this question.  It would be my suspicion that there is also some “insider” knowledge about where Justices Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett might stand as well.

Rather than being a “review” of lower court proceedings with poor records, or less than ideally developed evidentiary presentations, the advantage of this proceeding is that it is not burdened by the deficiencies in lower courts, nor is it bound by traditional limitations on the “scope of review” — the types of questions the Court can examine and the bases upon which it might overturn lower courts’ decisions.  It hears evidence in the first instance, and decides questions on legal and factual issues for itself.

The Texas Complaint is not slapped together.  It is the result of extensive research and drafting.  It was likely a work-in-progress for weeks, and I do not believe that work would have been undertaken on a lark as a political stunt.

Those on both sides of this partisan issue who are dismissing the Complaint as an unserious effort are failing to consider what I believe to be a crucial consideration in whether or not to allow Texas — and the other 18 states who have now joined — to “have their day in court.”

There is only one forum where Texas can present what it believes is evidence supporting the allegations it makes in the Complaint against the four defendant States. Only one tribunal has the authority to hear and consider witnesses and documentary evidence of this dispute.

Even if the dispute is not well-founded, or even if the remedy sought is “fanciful” or “extreme” in the eyes of others, Texas should not be denied the opportunity to make its claims, and have those claims accepted or rejected on their merits.


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1 posted on 12/11/2020 9:55:50 AM PST by billorites
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To: billorites

The constitution requires it.

Set it for hearing immediately.


2 posted on 12/11/2020 9:59:21 AM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List )
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To: billorites
General questions for attorney-freepers: Electors meet Monday to cast votes. What's your guess as to how the SCOTUS proceeds? Will it rush to reach a decision before Monday? Or will it delay the Monday deadline, giving the Court more time? Does it even have the power to postpone the Electors' meeting?
3 posted on 12/11/2020 10:01:40 AM PST by gw-ington (The Office of the President-Elect gw-ington and Vice President-Elect Loch Ness Monster)
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To: billorites

Looks like a well-thought and researched opinion.


4 posted on 12/11/2020 10:01:53 AM PST by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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To: billorites

Only two? It should be nine.


5 posted on 12/11/2020 10:03:17 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: P-Marlowe

Not going to happen. SCOTUS is just as gutless as lower courts and won’t resolve anything and will probably refuse to take jurisdiction. Face it, America is finished. Only CWII and/or succession remains.


6 posted on 12/11/2020 10:03:52 AM PST by TonyM (Score Event)
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To: billorites

Both Kagan and Sotomayor have ties to Biden and should recuse themselves from the Texas case.


7 posted on 12/11/2020 10:04:55 AM PST by Meatspace
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To: billorites

Still 5 against:

Chief Justice Roberts, Kennedy, Breyer, Kagan, and Sotomayor


8 posted on 12/11/2020 10:05:02 AM PST by Fido969 (,i.)
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To: Fido969

I don’t think SCOTUS can delay the electoral college meeting. The EC is the product of the state legislatures, which have control over their delegates. Only they can order their delegates to abstain, withhold their votes, not attend, etc.


9 posted on 12/11/2020 10:06:51 AM PST by CondorFlight
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To: Fido969

Kennedy is gone so he is not relevant


10 posted on 12/11/2020 10:09:42 AM PST by RummyChick (I blame Kushner.)
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To: Fido969

Justice Kennedy retired in July 2018.


11 posted on 12/11/2020 10:09:48 AM PST by Lions Gate
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To: Fido969

Re-check your math...

The article states “Justices Scalia, Kennedy, and Ginsburg are no longer on the Court...”


12 posted on 12/11/2020 10:10:26 AM PST by Golden Eagle (********** MERRY CHRISTMAS ***********)
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To: gw-ington

Sorry, answering as a FR non-attorney, but the only hard date is in the 20th amendment. That of Jan 20.

All other dates are subject to SCOTUS maneuvering to adjudication of this Original Jurisprudence case.


13 posted on 12/11/2020 10:13:01 AM PST by C210N
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To: P-Marlowe

IF the cowardly court fears taking the case to oral arguments it is because the evidence presented openly will compel affirmation of the plaintiffs. IF the cowardly court takes the case to oral arguments it is because they actually want the truth to be heard BEFORE they make a ruling, so the American People are served in Justice by the court.


14 posted on 12/11/2020 10:13:33 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: billorites

I don’t trust Kavanaugh either. I hope I am wrong.


15 posted on 12/11/2020 10:14:12 AM PST by Revel
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To: TonyM

Nonsense, fool! There is an EO from 2018 that can be invoked and that leads to the Insurrection act being activated.


16 posted on 12/11/2020 10:15:01 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: TonyM
Only CWII and/or succession remains.

That ain’t gonna happen. There are no states that will leave. Not even Texas.

If there were even a possibility of a CWII, the bullets would already be flying. They’re not. People are growing complacent. Their 401k’s are more important than their liberty. Just look at all the mask mandate fans on this forum. Sheep.

17 posted on 12/11/2020 10:18:38 AM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List )
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To: TonyM

Another well thought out and researched opinion from FR’s surrender chorus: “ We’re all going to diiiie!!!!!”

Even if that is the case you deserve no credit for being right because such is just an expression of your emotional, defeatist attitude, not a reasoned appraisal of the situation.

More than twenty states are on record pointing out the fraud. The SC will be the first domino to fall if they punt (and at that point, they will deserve it.


18 posted on 12/11/2020 10:18:45 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: gw-ington

“Rush” is a relative term. I expect a reasoned decision to accept the chore of hearing today. It may be a declination. If accepted, I would not be surprised to see a decision this weekend as the Court has been aware of the issues, and no doubt has kicked them around behind the scenes. There isn’t any way they would be able to produce a vote and lengthy opinion(s) on short notice. As I have told my brother who asked if judges/Justices work after the clerk is closed. I assured him that they work 24/7 when necessary.

SCOTUS is all powerful (omnipotent) but is unlikely to not respond before Sunday ends. That is my opinion. If there is a delay, expect a decision before January 6.

In my opinion, this is SCOTUS’ last opportunity to avoid a shooting war in the US. I don’t think that will affect their decision, but I see it as an inevitability. I don’t know if the President will wait, or tak action this weekend. But, I think the order will launch this weekend, if necessary. It is all based on the Supreme’s behavior at this point.

Just my $0.02

Gwjack


19 posted on 12/11/2020 10:23:57 AM PST by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: billorites

TWO?????? TWO???? OMG. Amy is a huge disappointment ...Hey KAVANAUGH. You STUPID UNGRATEFUL JERK ! You too GORSUCH!! THIS Is YOUR Damned JOB!!

YOU HAVE ONE JOB TO DO ! DO IT!!! COWARDS


20 posted on 12/11/2020 10:57:50 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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