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1 posted on 12/04/2020 7:42:40 AM PST by MNDude
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This changes everything even more. Time to freeze everything and find out what happened and who did it?


41 posted on 12/04/2020 8:08:01 AM PST by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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This has been known because of the hand recount audit where Trump picked up 74 votes in Ware County. This is not an isolated check though. Note that Favorito was able to check the machine because there were paper ballots produced by the system to allow the check and later his "forensic examination". ALL paper ballots were hand counted by Georgia separate from the machines. These are the same ballots Favorito used to confirm his result. Unfortunately, the hand counting of all the ballots in Georgia did not show a different Election outcome from the one produced by the Dominion system.

Here is a link showing the result of all the hand count differences by county. Scroll down to Ware County and you can see the +74 (37 "switched" votes). There are some standouts in the list like Floyd Co. and others where the big number were a result of operator errors during the initial counting of votes. But even when those errors were fixed, Joe Biden had more paper ballots marked for him than for Trump. That was confirmed without using the Dominion scanners or QR codes (the QR code if not properly tested by election officials can be a source of error, but not necessarily fraud).

We would be better served going after the absentee ballots as we have already hand recounted all of the paper ballots and the "fraud" just isn't there in the Dominion system. This isn't "breaking news" or "jaw dropping news". Any reasonable examination of the tabulation methods show Joe Biden had more ballots than Trump. We need to cull out the invalid ballots to have any hope in Georgia.

42 posted on 12/04/2020 8:12:16 AM PST by Religion and Politics
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The guy testifying yesterday said a forensic audit would be able to uncover any and all fraud.


43 posted on 12/04/2020 8:14:10 AM PST by 1Old Pro ( )
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Gateway Pundit seems to be the #1 website for breaking huge “BOOMS” that are never heard about again. I am not sure I trust this.


44 posted on 12/04/2020 8:15:53 AM PST by TarasBulbous
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Re Did, or Did Not, Georgia actually do a hand recount according to the state’s rules?

Ans: No

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This is an e-mail message, from Marilyn Marks, Executive Directory of the Coalition for Good Governance.

https://coaltionforgoodgovernance.sharefile.com/share/view/s95a64dd5306e431

Her e-mail message includes detailed supporting information re Georgia recount procedures, that you need to view online or download the PDF file (same link):

https://coaltionforgoodgovernance.sharefile.com/share/view/s95a64dd5306e431

Her e-mail message:

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Subject: Non-compliant “recount” /”RLA”
Date: Friday, November 13, 2020 at 11:52:44 AM Eastern Standard Time
From: Marilyn Marks
To: Ringer, Cheryl, Lowman, David, Richard Barron
CC: Bruce Brown

Cheryl, David, and Rick,

The following messages are ones I sent to a reporter in response to his questions on my comments about this topic in today’s BRE meeting about the improper hybrid “all-in-oneRLA/recount” activities that are about to consume your elections staff for the SOS’s partisan political purposes.

Please note that the SOS is asking Fulton to change official tallies after this hybrid exercise that is not authorized by statute.

If this is to be treated as a recount and tallies are to be changed, then it should be done according to statute. If it is to be a manual hand count, then different procedures should beused (see statute below) than the SOS has instructed.

We are concerned that your staff is going to go through a massively difficult exercise, without authority to change the tallies as the SOS is instructing.

There are numerous other discrepancies between the planned “audit/recount” and the legal requirements of either one.

Note that it has been reported in the press that indeed Trump may request an actual recount after the hand count is completed.

Bottom line is that if Fulton is going to have to endure this exercise, it should have some appropriate legal significance. Perhaps an opinion from the AG would be appropriate before engaging in this hybrid exercise that meets none of the laws. Also changing tallies outside thecontext of a compliant recount controlled by statute can bring challenges to the county.

Thanks, Cheryl. Feel free to call.

Message to reporter:

SOS is calling this a “recount” and is going to force changes in the tallies he says. That is a discretionary recount, (see highlighted paragraph.) A “recount” has to be done by machine with only limited exceptions. SOS is forcing a hand count without the requisite authority and counties are not going to have authority to actually change tallies as he is claiming they must do.

Notice that he has to have a sworn affidavit (verified petition) from the GOP describing the anticipated discrepancies. Where is that sworn petition?

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In her supporting documentation that followed, Marilyn Marks writes:

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“Recounts are by machine with limited circumstances for hand counting (court order or scanners that do not work.)

See below.

Audits do NOT change tallies.

SOS is telling the counties to recount by hand (with wrong procedures) and to change official tallies.”

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That was the end of the content, her writing in her e-mail message, before supporting documentation.

In that supporting documentation, you will find that:

- The Secretary of State has discretion to order a recount [Note, I did not write “hand recount”]

- The Secretary of State ordered *effectively* a hybrid recount

- An actual manual hand recount, may only be performed:

a) As provided under Rule 183-1-15-.03(1)(c)

b) Pursuant to a court order.

Now, that Rule 183-1-15-.03(1)(c):

[I broke the paragraph down into its sentences, for easier reading:]

Prior to conducting a recount, the election superintendent shall test each ballot scanner to be used in the recount.

A test deck shall be prepared to include at least 75 ballots marked by an electronic ballot marker and 25 absentee ballots marked by hand that were cast in the election to be recounted.

The ballots shall be selected from at least 3 different precincts, if available.

The selection of individual ballots from a precinct’s ballot container shall be conducted in a manner that selects ballots from throughout the ballot container.

The test deck shall be tabulated by the ballot scanner or scanners to be used in the recount using one or more batches.

A manual hand count of the test deck shall be made and compared to the electronic tabulation of the test deck.

[Here, Marilyn Marks highlighted in yellow, the following:]

If the two counts do not match, the discrepancy shall be researched and additional tests may be run.

If the discrepancy cannot be resolved so that the manual hand count and electronic tabulation of the test deck matches, the ballot scanner shall not be used in the recount.

If, after testing all available ballot scanners, there are no ballot scanners authorized to be used in the recount, the recount shall be conducted by manual hand count.

[There, her yellow highlighting ended.]

Upon completion of the test, the test deck ballots shall be returned to their original ballot containers.

[Here, Marilyn Marks writes (her initials are “MRM”):]

MRM: That certainly did not happen in preparation for this “recount”

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45 posted on 12/04/2020 8:17:25 AM PST by linMcHlp
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If only they’d found a noose hanging over the machine ......


47 posted on 12/04/2020 8:20:28 AM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches, and get with what's real.)
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This would be big IF TRUE! I haven’t see one other report on this, so for now I will be skeptical. I hoe it is true, but if it is, I am sure you would see a lot more than this Pundits report. Stay tuned!


49 posted on 12/04/2020 8:20:46 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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Media black out won’t save the left their nuts are nailed to the table fire ensues.


56 posted on 12/04/2020 8:26:15 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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I’ll say what I said weeks ago which is - I’d feel a lot better if such a large percentage of these stories were not coming from Gateway Pundit. That place has a history of sensationalizing things and then not being able to deliver.

The video evidence of ballot box stuffing in Georgia was damning. Kelli Ward’s initial finding of 2% of ballots fraudulently not counted for Trump in Arizona was very encouraging. Let’s see what the batch of 2500 ballots the judge has now released shows....if it shows something similar a statewide audit in Arizona will be unavoidable. More of the latter kinds of evidence please.


57 posted on 12/04/2020 8:33:49 AM PST by FLT-bird
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Don’t get your hopes up.......


72 posted on 12/04/2020 9:12:01 AM PST by EnquiringMind
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See the videos at https://rantingly.com


74 posted on 12/04/2020 9:13:05 AM PST by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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Not to be a buzzkill but, I suspect we will end up with two separate issues here.

—Fraud. It has become patently clear that vote fraud has occurred in certain counties in swing states. That’s probably going to end up being pretty solid.

However, that alone does not keep our President in the WH.

We get to the next issue:

—Was the fraud significant enough to justify the remedy of overturning a presidential election?

This is going to be a very difficult legal question. Can it be shown by a *preponderance of the evidence* that BUT FOR the fraud, Trump would have received more EC votes?

We don’t have precedent for this, so that seems like the logical test for the court to apply.

Just understand that even widespread fraud does not mean that the remedy must be a reversal of outcome.

If the damn state legislatures would take control, it would be a far better outcome than creating the impression that the court “picked”a president.


81 posted on 12/04/2020 9:43:24 AM PST by jazminerose (ADA mandate: You cannot disenfranchise the discarnate. )
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What county?


89 posted on 12/04/2020 10:27:44 AM PST by Lower Deck
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90 posted on 12/04/2020 10:38:52 AM PST by bitt (The left gave us 4 years of Pearl Harbor. Now its time to give them Hiroshima.)
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Not enough to change the vote outcome. Inadmissable. Irrelevant and immaterial. No standing. Dismissed.

Move along, nothing to see here.

Fake, the repooblicans contrived this.

/s

The only way this outcome is going to be changed is force of arms.


105 posted on 12/04/2020 11:41:16 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (I have a burning hatred of anyone who would vote for a demented, pedophile, crook and a commie whore)
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I’m guessing a flood of people will start coming forward to tell the truth... the ‘press’ will be the last group to the party - they’re disgusting.


108 posted on 12/04/2020 6:56:47 PM PST by GOPJ (Time to develop better strategy than pointing at democrats and whining 'THEY'RE NOT FAIR'...)
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