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Kentucky Man's Decision to Livestream Cops Making an Arrest Was a Bad Idea; Spoiler: 'Solid Left Hook'
Red State.com ^ | November 28, 2020 | Mike Miller

Posted on 11/28/2020 11:12:11 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 11/28/2020 11:12:11 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I see no reason for cops to punch or harass someone taking video from 50 feet away.

There is also no reason to expect the ID of such a person, either.


2 posted on 11/28/2020 11:16:35 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

I agree with you on both points


3 posted on 11/28/2020 11:18:12 AM PST by Kaslin (Joe Biden will never be my President, and neither will Kamala Harris)
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But “you” also can't just go around refusing to present ID to a police officer,

Yes, you can.

and you certainly can't resist.

He didn't.

The officer by his own admission had no reason for arresting or detaining him.

I don't care if it is 2020 or 1919.

Officer is in the wrong.

4 posted on 11/28/2020 11:25:56 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (And lead us not into hysteria, but deliver us from the handwashers. Amen!)
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To: Kaslin

This is B.S. this is how we get to a police state where people get disappeared. Cops should be video taped. In fact, body cams should be mandatory. They protect the cop from false accusations as well as protecting the rights of citizens.


5 posted on 11/28/2020 11:26:59 AM PST by Flick Lives (My work's illegal, but at least it's honest. - Capt. Malcolm Reynolds)
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To: ConservativeMind
They didn't target him for videotaping them. From the article, the guy was identified as someone who may have been involved:

Officers were informed that there was a gray Jeep involved. Officers were told that the gray Jeep was picking up offenders after they attempted to cash the fraudulent check. This officer was informed that the above subject [Joe Bennett] at which time was standing on the side of his vehicle was the driver of the gray Jeep.

7 posted on 11/28/2020 11:27:56 AM PST by throwthebumsout
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To: ConservativeMind

Some cios get jumpy and angry when they get filmed. Some don’t. Plenty of video of both types.

Anywsy, the cops later said the citizen wasn’t a suspect. So, where was the probable cause?


8 posted on 11/28/2020 11:29:12 AM PST by Fido969 (,i.)
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Go to Youtube and check out “Police Audits”, First Amendment Audits etc. One of my favourite channels is “Audit the Audit” where the narrator rates the actions of the police and the person recording. It can be very entertaining, and it can be infuriating.

Some of the “auditors” are just trying to poke the bear, but often that bear is well-deserving of a lesson in manners, common sense, and civil behaviour.

It’s very interesting how drastically police behaviour changes when they learn their actions are being recorded.


9 posted on 11/28/2020 11:29:15 AM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Thank God there are a few freedom oriented Freepers left.


10 posted on 11/28/2020 11:29:30 AM PST by TauntedTiger (Political correctness analyst/expert/victim)
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To: throwthebumsout

Really? Informed by who? I doubt it.


11 posted on 11/28/2020 11:30:08 AM PST by Fido969 (,i.)
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To: throwthebumsout

I would guess that the officer was “informed” by some “anonymous sources” that were invented as a convenient excuse to harass a citizen.


12 posted on 11/28/2020 11:31:05 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

And dumb eager beavers like these in the police force will constantly cause grieve for the force in whole.

My wifes nephew is a cop in Detroit MI. And he personally welcomes videos taken. Why? Because they get the names and addresses of those doing the videos and use them for evidence if the case gets to that. If they wont allow for full access of the vid, they then use a warrant to get the video.


13 posted on 11/28/2020 11:36:02 AM PST by crz
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Bullshit. A cop has no right to ask you for id unless he has good reason. Bennett could have easily said “I’m just talking on my phone’’.


14 posted on 11/28/2020 11:36:32 AM PST by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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Louisville police are supposed to be wearing and using Go Pro cameras themselves. However, there have been instances when either on their own, or following orders, they turned off their cameras in questionable circumstances.

In worse circumstances, the shooting of Breonna Taylor, the undercover agents had such cameras and used them at events earlier that day, but said they weren’t wearing them at the time. And other officers who arrived on scene were told to turn off their cameras.


15 posted on 11/28/2020 11:38:10 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All men and women were created by the, you know, you know, the thing." -- Joe Biden 3/3/20)
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To: Kaslin

Bad cop. Or perhaps just a really, really stupid cop. Needs to lose his job and a lawsuit. Chief probably needs to go as well.

You can film cops from a distance. Glik v. Cunniffe, 655 F.3d 78 (1st Cir. 2011); Smith v. City of Cumming, 212 F. 3d 1332, (11th Cir. 2000)


16 posted on 11/28/2020 11:40:34 AM PST by PAR35
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To: ConservativeMind

I was going to say the same thing. If the guy was pointed out (incorrectly) as the driver of the suspect vehicle, then he should have been told that before being asked for ID.


17 posted on 11/28/2020 11:42:23 AM PST by Defiant (If the Media and Social Media are going to run things, when do we get to vote for them?)
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I DO NOT NEED ID to film the cops!

I DO NOT NEED ID to stand in the street.

18 posted on 11/28/2020 11:47:41 AM PST by G Larry (There is no merit in compromising with the Devil.)
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To: crz
Yep.

When the vest cams came out our Sheriff went to the council and asked for funding to get them for his deputies.

They whined over the money and he told them that it was a lot cheaper then have to settle a lawsuit.

He has total confidence in his deputies and so he did not worry about what the tapes might show. His trust has been rewarded and yes, so far there have been no successful lawsuits against his department. We are a quiet little area but we do have a heavily traveled state road running though the township. There have been incidents. The recordings always clearly show that his guys and gals are polite, appropriate and follow the rules.

19 posted on 11/28/2020 11:47:46 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (And lead us not into hysteria, but deliver us from the handwashers. Amen!)
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First of all if he's 50 feet away and not making threats he had every right to be there. in a free country with fourth amendment rights you shouldn't have to show ID unless you are suspected of a crime. I've done a bit of research and Kentucky does appear to have a “stop and identify” law So the thug officer does not have a leg to stand on.

“In “stop and identify” states, citizens are required to disclose their identity to the police when the officers have reasonable suspicion to believe that they may be participating in criminal activity. The United States Supreme Court has upheld the constitutionality of these types of statutes. However, the Kentucky Supreme Court has found that the Commonwealth of Kentucky is not a “stop and identify” state.”
https://baldanilaw.com/identify-yourself-to-kentucky-police/

“A controversial bill granting Kentucky law enforcement the ability to temporarily detain anyone who refuses to identify him or herself has been withdrawn by the sponsor, who says he was “personally threatened” after posting the bill.”
Ky. Lawmaker Drops ‘Stop-And-Identify’ Proposal, Citing Hostile Response, By JOSH JAMES • JAN 21, 2020

Most recent court decisions have backed up Americans’ right to film police and will likely do so in the future.

The officer should be charged with assault.

20 posted on 11/28/2020 11:48:23 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (COVID lockdowns are the Establishment's attack on the middle class and our Republic)
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