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To: mazz44

Why does being conservative mean that any evidence that points to something that we don’t like mean that the evidence is wrong? We complain about the media being biased, but anytime there is a conclusion we don’t like, we just dismiss it as wrong?

I don’t like the implications of global warming, but that doesn’t mean it is wrong. I don’t like the fact that Biden has more ballots indicating he won the election, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t get more votes. We try to portray Europe as some kind of socialist hellhole, but the fact of the matter is that there are nations that are wealthier, happier, and get better results in almost all metrics than the USA.

It is really concerning that conservatives can’t deal with facts they don’t like. This is the number 1 reason we are losing the culture war. Like it or not, there is a real perception out there that we just can’t deal with the real world. I am a conservative because of the end goals of a more dignified, free, moral and united society within the context of Western Civilization. The problem is that we are constantly under pressure to lie to ourselves about the state of the actual world and things that are actually going on.

Could a religious conservative be a biologist while keeping their beliefs and being a good biologist? Could a conservative news reporter report facts about the world that point to instances where conservative policies failed, and liberal policies succeeded? In reading FR, I just don’t see it. Anytime someone doesn’t agree with what the party line, they are called a traitor or worse. Sometimes we can be wrong too.

If there is one virtue Liberals have that we don’t, it is the ability to adapt to new facts. Conservatives are good at adhering to old truths. The world has changed at an ever accelerating rate, and I fear that as our model of the world becomes evermore outdated, we will start losing more and more battles to the extent that the things that are good and true will get thrown out along with the false and self-serving.


34 posted on 11/22/2020 11:08:01 AM PST by Dat
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To: Dat

We are losing the culture war? Says who? The media? 10 million more votes than 4 yrars ago and more minority votes than any republican...therefore, the rest of your analysis is suspect at best and incorrect at worst.


39 posted on 11/22/2020 11:18:30 AM PST by mazz44 (http://knowledgeofhealth.com/why-animals-age-they-produce-less-vitamin-c-same-for-humans/)
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To: Dat

First premise is a liberal viewpoint. A pretty shoddy strawman that. I do not see conservatives dismissing things they do not like automatically as wrong. I see them as enjoying discussions on the topic as to how to correct the issue.

Your second issue is a liberal viewpoint also. Conservatives like point out that the mean temperature in the last decade has actually trended downward, and that the present cycle of lack of sunspots corresponds to the possibity of a Mandir minimum cooling trend.

Itsibers that say well it could be true... or not.. but do not actually understand the cyclic nature of long term cooling and warming trends that tend to follow 400 year cycles.

How interesting that your third premise is that conservatives can’t deal with facts they do not like, inferring that liberals can. Yet conservatives actually realize that there are only two genders and that chromosomes come in XX and XY flavors not WXYZ.

So that is three liberal projections that you state as conservative ones. So when you say “we” I really do not think that word means what you think it does.

Take off your brown glasses, you might learn something while you visit here. This is not DU here.


44 posted on 11/22/2020 11:31:03 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Dat

You’re an idiot, and that’s about it.


46 posted on 11/22/2020 11:41:05 AM PST by The Fop (God Bless Donald Trump, Frank Sinatra, Joan Rivers, and the Fightin' Rat Pack Wing of the GOP)
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To: Dat
We try to portray Europe as some kind of socialist hellhole, but the fact of the matter is that there are nations that are wealthier, happier, and get better results in almost all metrics than the USA.


Spoken like someone who has never actually lived in any foreign country. I have spent months or years in Europe the Far East and the Middle East. And I am retiring here, home in the good ole USA because it is BY FAR the best country on Earth. You are an ungrateful spoiled whiney Brat that is heading for a bridge that is out ahead. I suggest you develop critical thinking skills ASAP because you are a young skull filled with mush. Point out to me ONE free country on earth that has it better. By the way, to save time I have also lived in Norway the mecca of young socialists. You have half the story, and have FAILED to do your homework.

48 posted on 11/22/2020 11:44:04 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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